Originally Posted By DlandDug EE, didn't intend to single out you in particular-- just noting a "bigger issue" that seems to permeate so much of the conversation about the FLE.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Fantasyland Expansion will be nice. But there's nothing in it that gets me excited to go back to the park. I'm mildly interested in seeing how the Mine Train turns out, though.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>ORDDU: I'm sure it will be splendid to look at after it's been completed. It will certainly look better than what's there now.<< Of course. I'm looking forward to it. But that doesn't mean that it's particularly fantastic.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>EE, didn't intend to single out you in particular-- just noting a "bigger issue" that seems to permeate so much of the conversation about the FLE.<<< It's fine, I didn't feel that at all. But yes, there are issues, like you mentioned. >>>I'm mildly interested in seeing how the Mine Train turns out, though.<<< Same here.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Our years old Hunny Hunt ride at TDL is still years ahead of anything they are doing in the new expansion. Honestly, I would have prefered a properly done 40th anniversary celebration over this desperate attempt to rival Harry Potter.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Do you honestly think that this project is meant to rival Harry Potter? I don't. Disney's attendance is holding strong, and they could probably go another decade without doing a thing at the MK. In terms of long term sustainable attendance IoA needed HP far more than MK needs the FLE.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<In terms of long term sustainable attendance IoA needed HP far more than MK needs the FLE.>> Before I address the part quoted, no this isn't a competitor to Potter. Now, for the quoted portion, the Magic Kingdom DESPERATELY needed something like the FLE, which is the reason it was pushed on management by Burbank/Glendale. The park had been losing capacity and dining since the 90s, and this expansion is more about restoring some of that than about bringing in more guests. So really, it was a move to make the sustained attendance more comfortable in the park.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Now, for the quoted portion, the Magic Kingdom DESPERATELY needed something like the FLE, which is the reason it was pushed on management by Burbank/Glendale. The park had been losing capacity and dining since the 90s, and this expansion is more about restoring some of that than about bringing in more guests." Oh absolutely, but that's not the same thing as needing it to drive attendance. What you are talking about is an operations issue, not long term sustained turnstile clicks at the front gate.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "I think Constance is referring to an earlier liking for King Triton and his manly chestal region." lol
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Jumping back a bit to the castle discussion. I just remembered that DL has two castles - the Sleeping Beauty Castle AND a Cinderella Castle: <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/bananaphone5000/NEWGORILLA/7-65CindCastle.jpg" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/alb...stle.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "<a href="http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=25898061" target="_blank">http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/im...25898061</a>" Don't forget about this one.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Disneyland also has a Prince Eric Castle, too! It's the last structure you see at the end of Storybookland when riding the canal boats.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""The park had been losing capacity and dining since the 90s, and this expansion is more about restoring some of that than about bringing in more guests."" Due to thier own bad decisions. They created this situation and now they want us to "approve" this "expansion" because they threw thier hands up in holy horror at thier own ineptness. If they woulda re-opened Horseshoe, Verandah, kept El Pirata and TL Terrace open year round and kept smaller attractions open, then they wouldn't have had to focus on one land.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Disneyland also has a Prince Eric Castle, too!" And it has all the towers! <a href="http://www.themouseforless.com/blog_photo/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/DSCN3847.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.themouseforless.com...3847.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Yes, it does, Dr. Hans, and I wish the one in Florida would have both towers, too. I mean, it'll still look nice and all that. But what if Eric wants to climb the tallest tower he's always been used to climbing? (I think he may have had a bedroom up there!) Won't he be confused and bemused without his tallest tower?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: By the way, Dr. Hans, I just want you to know I could really KISS you for putting up that picture of Prince Eric's Castle from Disneyland's Storybookland! ORDDU: Leave the kissing of Dr. Hans to me, dear. He's used to getting them from me already. No need to confuse the dear physician by having him lock lips with a different witch... ORWEN: Oh, well, of course I wouldn't wanna' move in on my own sister's territory! ORDDU: Of course you wouldn't, dear. You're such an understanding member of the coven.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>So really, it was a move to make the sustained attendance more comfortable in the park.<<< Exactly. This plan is from 1998 and it is clearly done to make up for the closure of things like 20K, Skyway, and Adv Veranda. Nothing more.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Due to thier own bad decisions. They created this situation and now they want us to "approve" this "expansion" because they threw thier hands up in holy horror at thier own ineptness. If they woulda re-opened Horseshoe, Verandah, kept El Pirata and TL Terrace open year round and kept smaller attractions open, then they wouldn't have had to focus on one land. <<< Some of those things are now open again, in response to this. There's also the matter of TTF closing.
