Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Looks can be deceiving though. While the new Fantasyland will certainly look better, it still fars short of having as many attractions to do as the Disneyland Fantasyland does and that's what make a big difference to this coven. As I have said before, I still prefer Disneyland's Fantasyland over WDW's Fantasyland.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Oh, I'm sorry for my errors back there. I meant to say that WDW's Fantasyland will still fall short as to the number of attractions it will have compared to Disneyland's.
Originally Posted By tonyanton I'm curious to how Florida's Fantasyland will look once this new expansion is completed. I am hopeful, as I think the closing of 20,000 Leagues and the Skyway in the '90s really affected the look and feel of the land. For me, the Skyway visually "pulled together" a rather large, spread-out land in a way that the more intimate Fantasyland at DL did not need. Also, I am not as against the medieval tent facades in Florida as most are. Compared to pre-1983 DL, they are really only relegated to the Snow White, Peter Pan, Small World, and Philharmagic facades/entries. The rest of the buildings have had the DL village architecture since 1971 (with Pooh getting a facelift a few years back to fit in better with the expansion). One thing I wish they would do (though I doubt): Theme visible unthemed rooflines! (specifically Philharmagic, above the Cheshire Cafe, and if visible once all is done, the east side of the Small World show building). The first two examples have been this way since park opening, based on a look at old photos. In comparison, the rooflines above Snow White and Pooh have a castle armament theme. In general, WDW does a poorer job of this than DL (see also, visible backstage from in front of the Crystal Palace, between Main Street and TL, and in Caribbean Plaza - rear of Frontierland bldgs).
Originally Posted By TP2000 The ride count between the WDW and Disneyland Fantasylands is quite noticeable, even after the New Fantasyland expansion is done late next year. Disneyland Fantasyland Circa 2013 - 13 Rides It's a Small World - E Ticket Matterhorn Bobsleds - E Ticket Storybookland Canal Boats - D Ticket Casey Jr. Circus Train - C Ticket Pinocchio's Daring Journey - C Ticket Snow White's Scary Adventures - C Ticket Peter Pan's Flight - C Ticket Mr. Toad's Wild Ride - C Ticket Alice In Wonderland - C Ticket Mad Tea Party - B Ticket Dumbo - B Ticket Carousel - B Ticket Castle Walk-Through - A Ticket WDW Fantasyland Circa 2013 - 10 Rides It's a Small World - E Ticket Seven Dwarves Mine Train - D Ticket Little Mermaid - D Ticket Mickey's Philharmagic - D Ticket Peter Pan's Flight - C Ticket Winnie The Pooh - C Ticket The Great Goofini - C Ticket Dumbo - B Ticket Carousel - B Ticket Mad Tea Party - B Ticket Now, you could also weigh the merits of the various meet n' greets; Fantasy Faire and Pixie Hollow in Disneyland versus Fairytale Hall, Beauty's place, Ariel's place, and circusland tent in WDW. But for me, just a little bit of meet n' greet with Local Junior College Coed dressed up like a Princess goes a very long way. You could also debate Philharmagic versus whatever live stage show they put back into the Fantasyland Theater at Disneyland, and take into account that Winnie The Pooh exists elsewhere in Disneyland, blah, blah, blah. It's fascinating to me that this hugely hyped redo of Fantasyland only gains them a net of one extra ride from where they were 10 years ago, and NO extra rides from where they were 20 years ago. It's like they have just spent a ton of money to claw their way back to an overall ride capacity that can't be that much more than circa 1992. But, it does look far prettier, or at least it should. WDW's Fantasyland was always such a treeless expanse of hot concrete and painted flats. This gets them up to a design aesthetic that can meet the 21st century audience head on and impress them.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "WDW Fantasyland Circa 2013 - 10 Rides" Plus the DLR has TLM, great goofini which is the same as gadget im guessing? and pooh over in CC. A huge plus for me is also Toon Town, i know many people arent fans but i have always liked it. Yes WDW FL is nice looking, but most people are more interested in having more attractions instead of a lot of empty space.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance One thing that really chaps me is how good their Dumbo fountains look! DL is now behind the times!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt You left the WDW Railroad off of your list TP. Seems to me this debate is more about dark rides, or the lack of them in Florida, than it is about actual attraction count. All things considered though, I think WDW's Fantasyland will be at least as good as DL's, if not better by virtue of this expansion and it's magnificent centerpiece, Cinderella's Castle. Now, if they could just get the showmanship inside the attractions, shops, and restaurants up to DL's level and we'd be in business. "You could also debate Philharmagic versus whatever live stage show they put back into the Fantasyland Theater at Disneyland..." Could you? I personally wouldn't count seasonal stage shows that don't have regular operating schedules as attractions. To me they're more like frosting on the cake.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Well, of course dark rides are attractions, Dr. Hans. So they have to be counted.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "Seems to me this debate is more about dark rides," In all fairness when i think about FL i think about kids and FL attractions are what most young children are mostly able to do. Friends of mine with 3 young children asked me if they should go to WDW or DL and of course i said DL and told them try WDW when the kids are older. I love WDW, but i dont think its the better choice for kids. That being said dark rides are very important LOL.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "ORWEN: Well, of course dark rides are attractions, Dr. Hans. So they have to be counted." YEA!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "That being said dark rides are very important" Well... yeah... but I guess my question is Pinocchio's Daring Journey more important than Dumbo just because the former is a dark ride? Is the Little Mermaid more significant than Storybook Land? Does Snow White's Adventure outweigh an actual encounter with her in an elaborately detailed setting? I could be wrong, but I think what's being said in this discussion, specifically the summation in post number 24, won't necessarily correlate with the reality of the experiences or opinions of the average guest visiting the two parks once WDW's Fantasyland is complete.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, if you REALLY want to compare attractions with each other I would say a Kissing booth would out class them all! A Kissing booth where you get to lock lips with Prince Charming or Prince Phillip or Gaston or Flynn Rider or Tarzan--my personal favorite!!! But, as of yet, Disney management hasn't budged an inch toward taking such a wonderful suggestion!
Originally Posted By tashajilek I guess visiting Disneyland has made me spoiled. Fantasyland will look great when everything is completed, but i just feel that more could have been done as far as attractions go. Carsland is adding attractions because DCA needs them not just retheming/adding on to exisitng attractions. If i have never experienced DL FL i would probably be thrilled with the changes at the MK. "ORDDU: Well, if you REALLY want to compare attractions with each other I would say a Kissing booth would out class them all! A Kissing booth where you get to lock lips with Prince Charming or Prince Phillip or Gaston or Flynn Rider or Tarzan--my personal favorite!!! But, as of yet, Disney management hasn't budged an inch toward taking such a wonderful suggestion!" Are you just trying to make Hans jealous??
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, Tashajilek, duckling, whatever works on the hunk is worth a try. One of these days he'll pucker up for me!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt My kissing booth would definitely have Fastpass and be an E ticket.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Now, there's no reason a kissing booth couldn't be set up for you too, mrkthompsn, duckling. ORGOCH: Got Chapstick?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "My kissing booth would definitely have Fastpass and be an E ticket." Ha!
