Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I owe you an e-mail Spirit, though I need to think clearly when I do (I have pink eye in both eyes and tonsilitis right now, thankfully my medical has been free (ok, 11% of my taxes help this) and I was able to get in within 4 hours of contacting a Dr both times. I am looking forward to the rest of our countrymen enjoying some of these levels of service. I am not anti-american, I am just anti selfishness and pro social justice. But you knew that you pinko commie snob ;-) >> Sorry to hear about the conditions ... ick!!! Maybe there's something about the general UK gloom that brings about things like that! ;-) Oh, and I prefer 'pinko Commie elitist snob' even though I know it is redundant!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I really hope this new bill will help get things on track for so many. I wish it went further, and no matter what, people will be upset, but hopefully it is progress.>> I hope so. I know so many people (famlily and friends and co-workers) who simply either can't afford insurance or are tossed aside because of illness/pre-existing conditions. I'm a capitalist. Always will be. (BTW, that doesn't mean the bastardization that Wall Street has pulled over the last 15-20 years) But healthcare can't be just another for-profit business. It can't. People die and suffer horrifically. And yet here in Miami right now I'm watching people protesting (albeit what looks like maybe two dozen at most) over us becoming 'socialists' ... I'm sorry, but I will never get where they are coming from. I keep remembering that movie from a few years ago (think Samuel Jackson was the lead) where the father basically goes nuts and takes over a hospital at gunpoint and orders docs to treat his dying child. Scary thing is, I think that's a very rational response to the heartless system we have today. No. I am not a fan of the government. But I'll take them over the healthcare/insurance lobby any day. They already have the death panels in full operation working out of cubicles in business parks all around the USA. And hey, how about that TRONorail? Way kewl? or Way over the top?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I don't know who was in the wrong, really. It seems like the blame could easily be shared by many. But I expect kids, especially kids who feel they've been dissed (and they may well have been), to act out a bit.>> Spirit, I can email you the details if you want them, but I'm sure our buddy EE will fill you in this weekend. We're still planning on meeting in Orlando this summer if you're still interested.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> MPierce, funny you should mention the health care bill's unpopularity. Have you seen this?: <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/w...le_N.htm" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/news/w...le_N.htm</a> Socrates "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." << Allow me to quote from the article >> Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds — a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against the legislation. << Socrates do you find it just the least bit curious that the polls turned around miraculously with the passing of this bill? I have tracked public opinion through polls on multiple issues for years. During that time I have never seen one single issue have such a drastic swing in such a relatively short time.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I really feel like I missed all the 'good stuff' ... kinda like when networks censor films so as to not upset the puritanical amongst us. << Or when you see a string of ADMINS. on here. You feel cheated that you missed out.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And I'm a moderate, good-looking, Commie with a great singing voice! << I would love to hear you do a rendition of "By a Waterfall" by Dick Powell.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I have tried working on him. I'd love to see him here (obviously) as he's not just a friend, but one with a brain and some really good information and perspective. I'm not sure he wants to be Lee No. 2 here! ;-) << He is a wealth of knowledge. I would absolutely love to see him, and Martin Smith posting over here. There are already several people from Magic that post over here, and there's always room for more. Tell him I'll start a campaign to bring back the Adventures Club if he post over here. If anything gets his attention it's the Adventures Club. Speaking of LeeMac, it would seem he has disappeared once again. He has to quit taking all that work at Disney so seriously.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm a capitalist. Always will be. (BTW, that doesn't mean the bastardization that Wall Street has pulled over the last 15-20 years) <, Wall Street is not capitalisim. They have become a bunch of barbarians that practice the rape, and pillaging of the capitalist system, and parts of our Government have been in bed with them for a very long time. >> But healthcare can't be just another for-profit business. It can't. << It is not purely a for profit business, and never has been. You can't really expect folks to spend tons of money, and tons of time to work at an extremely stressful job for long hours without making the bucks. It's insane to think we will get the number of people we need, and the best people, with conditions like that, unless they are adaquately compensated. Next time you visit your Doctor find out how much of his time is devoted to charity, and find out how many accounts he writes off per month as no pays. You will be very surprised. Or possibly come down here, and go to the Hospital that my wife had to take her mother to. It's a hospital in a very affluent part of town, and on a Thursday afternoon it took my mother-in-law nearly 4 hours to see a doctor. My wife was talking to one of the nurses who explained that over half of the people had absolutely no insurance, and it's best to have an ambulance bring you in rather than to walk in off the street.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And yet here in Miami right now I'm watching people protesting (albeit what looks like maybe two dozen at most) over us becoming 'socialists' ... I'm sorry, but I will never get where they are coming from. << And I'm certain they will never get where you are coming from. >> No. I am not a fan of the government. But I'll take them over the healthcare/insurance lobby any day. They already have the death panels in full operation working out of cubicles in business parks all around the USA. << Then you should be overjoyed with Homeland Security, and the Patriot Act. >> And hey, how about that TRONorail? Way kewl? or Way over the top? << It would be way kewl if they advertised Trojan Prophylatics on the Monorails or what's the name of that sponsor on ESPN Classics on Saturday Night Live?
Originally Posted By Socrates Back to #44: Since you asked (be careful what you ask for ), I think this is fascinating to see how it plays out. I think it is at least plausible that the polls have turned around. Could it be because: - we have problems and people want to be led? Did you see Time magazine's March 1st cover story "Why Washington is Frozen"? Well, Obama proved he can get something major done, and perhaps many people respect that. - now that the bill has passed, people are paying attention to the details and realizing it isn't as radical or far-reaching as some have portrayed it? - this poll was somehow manipulated or is inaccurate? That's possible too since it was just one poll. If that is true, we should be able to tell when the next round of polls is released. The next election should really be interesting. Will success breed success? How can the Republicans offer a viable leadership alternative with nothing but negativity? Where are their solutions? How can simply opposing Obama be enough? Socrates "Stay tuned!"
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Spirit, I can email you the details if you want them, but I'm sure our buddy EE will fill you in this weekend.>> I am sure he will, but feel free to send an email ... if you don't have my addy, then I'm sure he'll provide it to you offline. <<We're still planning on meeting in Orlando this summer if you're still interested.>> Have interest. Have no idea where I'll be come summer. Have a lot of Spirited things going on ... but if I'm in FLA, I'll try and make it!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> I really feel like I missed all the 'good stuff' ... kinda like when networks censor films so as to not upset the puritanical amongst us. << <<Or when you see a string of ADMINS. on here. You feel cheated that you missed out.>> Like when I sat year after year waiting for the Great Pumpkin when I could have paid an extra $60 to Disney for maybe $3 worth of candy if I really pigged out! Cheated and Left Out: The Spirit of 74 Tale ... on sale soon at Borders and a Laughing Place near you!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> And I'm a moderate, good-looking, Commie with a great singing voice! << <<I would love to hear you do a rendition of "By a Waterfall" by Dick Powell.>> Am I going to have to Google the above?
Originally Posted By leobloom ^^Isn't it from a Busby Berkley musical? 'Footlight Parade' if I'm not mistaken??
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> I have tried working on him. I'd love to see him here (obviously) as he's not just a friend, but one with a brain and some really good information and perspective. I'm not sure he wants to be Lee No. 2 here! ;-) << <<He is a wealth of knowledge. I would absolutely love to see him, and Martin Smith posting over here. There are already several people from Magic that post over here, and there's always room for more. Tell him I'll start a campaign to bring back the Adventures Club if he post over here. If anything gets his attention it's the Adventures Club.>> Yes. He is like an obsessed fanboi over it. It's almost like someone spiked his Kungaloosh with pixie dust! <<Speaking of LeeMac, it would seem he has disappeared once again. He has to quit taking all that work at Disney so seriously.>> I agree. Everyone working at/for Disney has one thing in common: they won't be at some point in the future anyway! But Lee has been here ... well, not sure about this board. Frankly, I think he's like me in that other than EPCOT and DAK, WDW bores him to tears. But he's been on LP.com ... check the TDR board. He popped in last week when the OLC announced its plans to go the WDC route and plop an Aladdin spinner (this time Jasmine actually and themed a bit) to TDS. I even got him to talk a bit of Disney projects from Anaheim to Dubai ...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Wall Street is not capitalisim. They have become a bunch of barbarians that practice the rape, and pillaging of the capitalist system, and parts of our Government have been in bed with them for a very long time.>> I know. I'm just sickened by it. Wall Street at one time represented all (or a big part) of everything that was so right about our nation, our way of life. Now, it represents all that is wrong. And unless it gets reigned in, in some truly meaningful way, I do believe Wall Street will destroy this country as we know it. Not evildoers with exploding underwear. >> But healthcare can't be just another for-profit business. It can't. << <<It is not purely a for profit business, and never has been. You can't really expect folks to spend tons of money, and tons of time to work at an extremely stressful job for long hours without making the bucks. It's insane to think we will get the number of people we need, and the best people, with conditions like that, unless they are adaquately compensated.>> Adaquete compensation is the problem, though. And I don't know any docs that are on food stamps and driving 88 Buicks with 289,000 miles (not that an 88 Buick would ever make it that far but ... ) and picking up shifts at night at 24-hour Walmarts to pay the third mortgage before they lose their homes etc ... When you start talking about what's fair, most folks say let the market decide. And it can't because it has been inherently corrupted. So, what's fair? Should my general practioner be limited to $200K a year? $500K? $1 million? What is enough? Even in countries with universal healthcare, you don't have docs living in poverty or anything close. And you wouldn't here. <<Next time you visit your Doctor find out how much of his time is devoted to charity, and find out how many accounts he writes off per month as no pays. You will be very surprised. Or possibly come down here, and go to the Hospital that my wife had to take her mother to. It's a hospital in a very affluent part of town, and on a Thursday afternoon it took my mother-in-law nearly 4 hours to see a doctor. My wife was talking to one of the nurses who explained that over half of the people had absolutely no insurance, and it's best to have an ambulance bring you in rather than to walk in off the street.>> Believe me, I understand the situation all too well. And the ignorant massses who bitch about paying for healthcare for others, don't realize they've been paying for it for years.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<And I'm certain they will never get where you are coming from.>> The difference is, I make sense. I use facts. I don't believe the world revolves around myself, my family, my political views or any religios ones. And I try and respect others who can present opposing views in clear ways that don't disparage others. >> No. I am not a fan of the government. But I'll take them over the healthcare/insurance lobby any day. They already have the death panels in full operation working out of cubicles in business parks all around the USA. << <<Then you should be overjoyed with Homeland Security, and the Patriot Act.>> Um ... we've been over my feelings on those abominations. >> And hey, how about that TRONorail? Way kewl? or Way over the top? << <<It would be way kewl if they advertised Trojan Prophylatics on the Monorails or what's the name of that sponsor on ESPN Classics on Saturday Night Live?>> Vagisil? When your princess has a little itch in her own magic kingdom!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The next election should really be interesting. Will success breed success?>> We can hope. <<How can the Republicans offer a viable leadership alternative with nothing but negativity?>> The GOP is DEAD as it stands. You can't be a moderate. You can't agree with the Prez. You must be so far on the right that your ass rubs up against Russia's leg. No one in the party is showing any leadership whatsoever because the Tea Party (along with idiots like Beck and Limbaugh) preach hatred and lies and the Republicans that still have sanity are afraid to stand up against the tidal wave of negativity, even though it does practically guarantee they'll lose at the polls. <<Where are their solutions?>> They have none. Or the few that do, are afriad to present them. Not afraid they won't work or don't make sense. But afraid because the party has whipped up folks like rabid dogs and they will have no viable futures if they don't tow the line. Right now, it's one of simply being sore loser. They still haven't gotten over the fact that my beloved Sarah isn't a heartbeat away from the most powerful position in the world. So, they're going to take their ball and go home until election time (possibly throwing a brick into your window on the drive by) and f-American until then. <<How can simply opposing Obama be enough?>> I don't believe it can be. They put so much time, money, effort and hate into it that what's left?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<^^Isn't it from a Busby Berkley musical? 'Footlight Parade' if I'm not mistaken??>> I'll take your word for it. I can't wait until Pierce sings it for me at WDW! And thanks for chiming in. For a few minutes, I thought I was writing in my journal.
Originally Posted By jkayjs <<Vagisil? When your princess has a little itch in her own magic kingdom!>> Spirit dear are you practicing medicine without a license?
