Originally Posted By leobloom >> Yes. I have been hoping that Jason Garcia might get off his lazy arse and write about this. Especially in an era where we are concerned about the spread of germs and illness, it amazes me that WDW theme parks all have sinks that trickle coolish water on your hands and shut off after 10 seconds. << I wish he would. Maybe he could interview me, like some people were interviewed for the Yeti article? Yo, Garcia, ask anyone around here: I'm a bathroom expert!
Originally Posted By oc_dean >> ~Prices increase does not include pixie dust, which must be added at an additional cost~ << Lather, rinse, and repeat about once every 12 months.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>.I wish he would. Maybe he could interview me, like some people were interviewed for the Yeti article? Yo, Garcia, ask anyone around here: I'm a bathroom expert!<<< At least he is interviewing.
Originally Posted By standor Like I wrote on many occasions, the only way Disney would change their ways, is when most people refuse to go there. I know most of us love the place. We have to grit our teeth and when Disney sees our actions, they might come to their senses.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I would think that that might be happening, as evidenced by many posts on these boards.
Originally Posted By jmuboy I'm not even cosnidering a WDW trip for 2 more years and its been a year since my last trip. All my "Disney Parks" dollars are going to DL. They are better and they deserve my money. When WDW starts acting remotely like DL once again I will consider a WDW trip. Its liberating to finally have arrived at this point.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> See, that for me has FREE TRIP written all over it. Sleep is very important to me and if my phone rang and woke me up at say 3:11, I wouldn't be able to sleep anymore. << <<You'd complain if it woke you up at noon though. >> Vacations are about sleeping in ... to me anyway. Unless, they're somewhere I have never been. Unless you've missed every conversation we have ever had ;-) ... we know that sure ain't the case with WDW and this Spirit! >> Yes. I have been hoping that Jason Garcia might get off his lazy arse and write about this. << <<Next time he post one of his little columns, and list his e-mail address, why don't you contact him. I bet he would love hearing from you.>> I hate to tell professional media types how to do their jobs. I know so little about the business myself ... >> I would really love to hear this (I love Spirited ugly stories!) ... you sure you don't want to spill? << <<Me too! It will stir all the natives up, and get them posting.>> I just really want to know what went down because stuff that makes one that angry/upset clearly is ... well, 'good' in a bad way! >> Your wife was right. << <<It wasn't his wife who said it, it was doesguys who said " like I said "this would never happen at the old Disney" ". Put that Mojita down, and follow the conversation!>> I meant that his wife was right about Disney being just like everything else in our Walmarted society ... and I haven't had a Mojito since last week! ~But I could go for one ... or four about now!~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<When they start losing long time fans like demderedoseguys Disney is in trouble. I felt the same wayas doseguys my last 2 trips. I tried to make the most out of both trips, but I just didn't care if I was there or not, and it didn't bother me when I left.>> It's not just youse guys. I have felt the same way. We are into August and I have had only one visit to WDW this year. I can't tell you the last time that happened because I had to have been a teen if not younger ... and we all know it's been a while. Now, I did take my 14-night Magical cruise ... and I will be at DLR this month ... and at HKDL (and hopefully!) TDR (FINALLY!) later this year. But WDW is where I have spent the lion's share of my Disney Dollars over the decades and they simply aren't getting them now. The $4 in discounted chocolate covered espresso beans I picked up at my local WDW outlet store today isn't the same as dropping four grand on property in a week as I did in the past. ~They've lost me ... and $37 pizza ain't gonna get me back!~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >Would you mind mentioning the restaurant?< <<It was The Plaza, which I still think is the best kept secret at Disney. We eat lunch and dinner there all the time. It has good food and the prices aren't too bad.>> I've always enjoyed the Plaza, even though I can often now go years without dining there. Sorry you had such a wretched experience there ... and if you decide to share, we won't tell anyone ;-) ~They used to have pasta there!~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I'm not even cosnidering a WDW trip for 2 more years and its been a year since my last trip. All my "Disney Parks" dollars are going to DL. They are better and they deserve my money. When WDW starts acting remotely like DL once again I will consider a WDW trip. Its liberating to finally have arrived at this point. >> I certainly appreciate those sentiments. WDW truly is Four Stale Parks: One World. I came across this interview with Imagineers Tony Baxter and Kent Sheranian excerpted on Miceage and these two quotes sum up much of what I have been saying here for years: namely that TDO can get away with things in Orlando because of a largely bumpkin tourist demo that doesn't know any better vs. a higher caliber guest (or at least a smarter, savvier, worldier one) in the media/entertainment capital of the world. Here are the comments: <<Baxter: Our challenge, when we add things, is to make them appear naturally. The worst thing we could do is make it look like an intrusion on the environment, considering it has been so richly thought out and lovingly cared for over the past 55 years. Most of our rides and attractions happen indoors so we can control that environment and deliver the optimum experience to guests. But on the outside, we have to create something that’s always attractive, looks new, and fits into a particular atmosphere. Does it not only fit into Disneyland, but then does it fit in the logical subset of Fantasyland or Adventureland? These are things we ask ourselves a lot stronger in California, because there is that level we have to uphold not only for ourselves but also for a very discriminating audience. Sheranian: Our clientele here at this park is extremely discriminating. We get much more critical issues written up on the Internet for our part, because guests come and visit Disneyland multiple times in a year.>> ~Dumber in O-Town? You betcha!!!~
Originally Posted By Dreamerica What I can't understand is all those Disney World visitors that have been there a thousand times, yet they flat out refuse to set foot in Disneyland. Oh well, it's thier loss.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer <<It was The Plaza, which I still think is the best kept secret at Disney. We eat lunch and dinner there all the time. It has good food and the prices aren't too bad.>> Now, that, I can agree on. Was very pleased with the offerings there in June. Great place. I'd want to go back in Dec, but it's not open. Refurb, I guess.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>What I can't understand is all those Disney World visitors that have been there a thousand times, yet they flat out refuse to set foot in Disneyland. Oh well, it's thier loss.<< Sometimes its just easier to drink the kool-aid. Plus bigger is always better, right?
Originally Posted By tashajilek I think it's a shame to only ever visit one Disney park in your life time, if you are a huge fan. I have been to DL oodles of times and cant wait to go to WDW and maybe TDL a few years from now. I may have to save a little extra seeing all the parks are getting more $$$ LOL.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 But I don't want to spend 3-4 (I'm guessing on the time) hours on a bus/car to get to San Diego Zoo when I can get to AK in 15 minutes.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 The reason the parks are dirty is because its more important to make stupid, bad character faces with bucket water and brooms on the ground, in random lands, than actually CLEAN the park.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>But I don't want to spend 3-4 (I'm guessing on the time) hours on a bus/car to get to San Diego Zoo when I can get to AK in 15 minutes. << If you time it right, it takes a lot less than that. Plus the San Diego Zoo is a zoo, not a themepark.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Does it not only fit into Disneyland, but then does it fit in the logical subset of Fantasyland or Adventureland? These are things we ask ourselves a lot stronger in California, because there is that level we have to uphold not only for ourselves but also for a very discriminating audience. Sheranian: Our clientele here at this park is extremely discriminating. We get much more critical issues written up on the Internet for our part, because guests come and visit Disneyland multiple times in a year. << That pretty much said it all.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo And post 59 is one of the main reasons why DLP suffers. The European audience are happy with the 6 Flags offering of Toy Story Playland. Oh dear.
