Originally Posted By davewasbaloo My prediction, a shed load of time, money and environmental deprivation will be spent on a bunch of over grown kids running at each other and people will bet, watch, discuss, and argue about something that austensibly does not matter?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>My prediction, a shed load of time, money and environmental deprivation will be spent on a bunch of over grown kids running at each other and people will bet, watch, discuss, and argue about something that austensibly does not matter?<< Dancing with the Stars?
Originally Posted By DAR After watching the Bears and Lions game yesterday apparently catching a ball in the endzone, posessing said ball, falling to the ground still in control of the ball is no longer a touchdown. Way to muck it up NFL rules committee.
Originally Posted By Labuda Yeah, I missed that play live yesterday, but saw a replay just now while at lunch. The receiver taking the hit that sent him to the ground happened after he'd already caught the ball, so the Lions should have won that game.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 actually if you even listen to the Detroit coach - the correct call was made- if he goes to the ground the continuation says he has to maintain control all the way thru the process- he did not. Now do I think it is a stupid rule ( even as a Bears fan) - yes...but it was applied correctly. The rules committee might want to rethink it though
Originally Posted By Labuda Dave - that's exactly what I wasz thinking until convinced otherwise by my buddy at work today who swore up and down that what happened once he went down (since it was after the catch) did not matter. Oy!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 then your buddy wasn't listening to the former head of officials who was on the game broadcast-- it is all about the process when a received chooses to go to the ground while making the catch - it is not like breaking the plane on a run. please share this with him - because he's wrong.. ----------------------------------- But even after Johnson came down with both feet in bounds, as he hit the ground, the ball popped loose and the ruling on the field was an incomplete pass, which was the correct call. The booth review by the replay assistant confirmed the ruling and the play stood as called on the field. Here's why: Rule 8, Section 1, Article 4. A play from start to finish is a process. When you go to the ground, even after you've caught the ball, you have to maintain possession. The rule states: If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete. MAKE THE CALL Our rules expert Mike Pereira breaks down all the big decisions HERE. So the play stood as called and the Bears held on to win, 19-14. The onus is on the receiver to hold onto the ball even after he hits the ground. Unfortunately for Johnson and the Lions, they found that out the hard way.
Originally Posted By Terminus Stupid rule, the way it is written. He caught the ball. Came down with both feet. Fell down on his rear end. All IN BOUNDS. Then while getting up from off of his rear, let the ball go. The play was over by then. He caught it, got both feet down, sat down in the end zone, and STILL didn't get the TD. Of course... Full disclosure... I have Megatron on my Fantasy Football team, so I'm biased. =)
Originally Posted By DAR Not to mention Johnson posessed the ball longer than a running back who dives over the line on a goal line play and gets the ball knocked loose and that's still called a td.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 not defending the rule- but the decision. The rule was applied correctly. the Bears had one taken away a few years ago almost exact same situation with Marty Booker catch. I don't like the rule-- but that is different than the call was wrong. the cal was exactly correct.... the Detroit head coach has no issue with the ruling - I wonder why so many others do ?
Originally Posted By Terminus I think most people (like me) don't like the rule, the way is it written. I'm not arguing that they applied it right. It's just that they have applied it WRONG in the past (last year's Super Bowl as an example). If I saw this as a highlight, I think all I would have thought is, "Wow, tough luck"... But since I had a stake in the play, I felt a little more strongly about it. =)
Originally Posted By Terminus Picks from Week 1 or before: Terminus - Ravens over Packers CC - Steelers over Steelers =) DAR - Packers over Colts Labuda - Steelers over Saints vbdad55 - Packers over Ravens Main Street Dad - Jets over Vikings TXDISNEYNERD - Cowboys over Ravens A couple are still possible!