Originally Posted By sjhym33 I just posted on the Glacial Pace thread about the cd's I got a couple of weeks called Walt Disney and the 1964 Worlds Fair. Fantastic!
Originally Posted By plpeters70 I bought those cds too - they're awesome!! Disney definitely needs to get back in the song-writing business at its Theme Parks!
Originally Posted By brotherdave >>>I mean, what songs go along with the attractions - particularly at EPCOT - that are new. Remembering back, we had (going counterclockwise) Living with the Land; Veggie, Veggie, Fruit, Fruit; Imagination; Magic Journeys; the two Kodak preshows; Motion, Horizons; Energy; and Tomorrow's Child. Lyrics and singalong all. Other than Big Blue World in Living Seas, what attraction music can you sing along with now in EPCOT?<<< Well, songs definitely don't seem as important in the EPCOT attractions as they once did, that's for sure. I really miss the EPCOT Center of the 1980s! Here's a list of songs from attractions during that time: Spaceship Earth - "Tomorrow's Child" - song removed and score replaced...twice! Universe of Energy -(Had two songs) "Energy: You Make the World Go Round" and "Universe of Energy". Both removed during Ellen makeover. Horizons - "New Horizons" - Both the attraction and song went to 'Yesterland'. Horizons also featured a cameo version of "Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow" during the 'futures past' sequence. World of Motion - "It's Fun to Be Free" - Both sent to 'Yesterland' as well. The Land - "Listen to the Land" boat ride plus all the delightful songs of Kitchen Kabaret. Listen to the Land was dropped when Kraft dropped sponsorship, but the ride remained as Living With the Land. Kitchen Kabaret was redone into Food Rocks, which had food parodies of rock songs. This attraction was a pale imitator of the original and was not nearly as missed when it closed for Soarin'. Journey Into Imagination - "One Little Spark" - Although this song is still used to a lesser extent in the current Journey Into Imagination With Figment, it certainly doesn't have the same grandeur as the original, and neither does the newer attraction. Magic Journeys - Had a wonderful Sherman Brothers song of the same name. Beautiful and haunting at the same time. "Making Memories" was the song for the pre-show as discussed in this thread. Both songs disappeared when they replaced Magic Journeys with Captain Eo. Captain Eo - Had two Michael Jackson songs, "Another Part of Me" and "We Are Here to Change the World". Neither appeared on any Disney CD's to my knowledge, though "Another Part of Me" I believe was released on one of Jacko's albums. I believe that the preshow for this used "True Colors", the old Cyndi Lauper song that Kodak adopted as it's 'theme song' in the 90s. Replaced with Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Astuter Computer Revue (Communicore) - "The Computer Song" This lively song actually kind of made computers sound fun. Disappeared when the show was retooled into Backstage Magic. El Rio Del Tiempo(Mexico) - "Come With Me, Amigos" Catchy tune that stayed with you after the attraction was over. Replaced with "The Three Caballeros" during the ride's retheme to "Gran Fiesta Tour with the Three Caballeros". O' Canada - "Canada, You're a Lifetime Journey" is still heard in the new film, but is sung by a female Canadian pop star now. The American Adventure - "Golden Dream", the only song to still be heard in it's unaltered glory from when EPCOT Center opened. Wonderful!
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp "The American Adventure - "Golden Dream", the only song to still be heard in it's unaltered glory from when EPCOT Center opened. Wonderful!" Unfortunately, I don't think the statement is accurate. While most of the song is the same, I believe they did add a new portion a couple of years ago - bringing it up to date with people who came to fame after the original. The song was lengthened a couple of minutes.
Originally Posted By brotherdave You may be right, but it's still basically the same, same vocalists, same stirring score (just a little longer). By and large, it's still pretty much the same as when it opened. Perhaps 'plussed' a little, but still just as moving.
Originally Posted By sjhym33 The American Adventure has three great songs with New World Bound,Two Brothers and Golden Dreams
Originally Posted By brotherdave Good point! I forgot the other two songs. I really wish they'd release those on CD as well. Heck, release the entire show. It's my favorite show at WDW!
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp Both Two Brothers and Golden Dreams tend to bring moisture to the eyes, particularly when Dreams starts "two feet forward".
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I remember being at Buddy Baker's Memorial tribute at USC ... and talking with some real Disney musical Legends ... and a few Imagineers ... the one theme of the day was how Disney had actively and with intent killed the Music of EPCOT. For all the amazing and memorable scores you associate with 'Classic' EPCOT, ask what has been added musically to replace all the songs that have been removed. Tough one, huh? The only memorable music would be Soarin. No lyrics, either. Stolen from DCA as well. I recall hearing some godawful song that ostenibly hails from Mission Space on one of the recent park CDs and thinking 'this is so forgettable' ... which is likely why I never recalled hearing it once when exiting MS. ~The Day The Music Died~
Originally Posted By danyoung Golden Dreams definitely had an update a couple years back. I don't know if it's the same vocalists or not, but it's definitely new vocal tracks. The arrangement is very similar to the original, though.
Originally Posted By Mr X ~The Day The Music Died~ I've been enjoying your pithy "signature-quotes", and this one is particularly appropriate!
Originally Posted By Mr X Sad to say, but I think little-by-little DisCo is skipping over all the little things that made Disney Parks special in the first place...the charming details, the catchy tunes, the memorable shops, the unique rides. *sigh*
Originally Posted By Disney and beyond I don't actually know how to put my exact thoughts into words, but here it goes. As long as the ride is good, I could care less about the song. People don't go for the song, they go for the ride. The lack of songs has been a sign of the times. For two reasons: 1. The extreme lack of amazing songwriters outside of Alan Menken, who is only now getting back to Disney to work on Rapunzel. 2. The change to thrill rides, which is not an entirely a bad thing. And its not like I hate Disney Music. I've got over 250 Disney related songs on my iPod. I'm just saying that the lack of songs is not the end of the world. "Nostalgia is a Poison in our Modern Society."
Originally Posted By hopemax In the Sherman Brothers book, there is a line somewhere that says something like...its the music that you take with you when you leave. So when you are at home, years later, you hear a few bars and it triggers the good memories and feelings. I remember another old-timer mentioning that Walt wanted a pictorial guide on every coffee table, that's why they sold them so cheap. To be a conversation pieces, reminding the owner how great it was and to want to come back; to tell their friends how great it was so they would make a trip. But I guess they would prefer 4/3 packages to motivate people to return.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<As long as the ride is good, I could care less about the song>> well, maybe that's your opinion! Let's face it, the CoP in lame...but, The Great Big Beautiful is fab! ~Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion~ I am at such a loss for words that won't get me Admined that I'm off to Play Pen..Have a Magical Day
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Sad to say, but I think little-by-little DisCo is skipping over all the little things that made Disney Parks special in the first place...the charming details, the catchy tunes, the memorable shops, the unique rides. *sigh* << I agree. It's kind of sad when we start to lose sight of what use to be the overall Disney experience.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> In the Sherman Brothers book, there is a line somewhere that says something like...its the music that you take with you when you leave. << Definetly! Music is meant to move people, and bring out a certain emotional response. I guess Disney no longer feels it adds to an attraction.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 As a kid I never noticed the music in cartoons, but when I had my own children and watched with them, all the cartoons had great music, it set the mood, brought you up and pulled you down. Like Hopemax said, the music triggers memories. Keep the music coming!!
Originally Posted By sjhym33 First you have to build attractions to have music. Since Disney has steered away from attractions with AA figures and other classic style attractions, its hard to incorporate music into them. Though I will say that I love the music from Soarin.
Originally Posted By magnet I disagree very strongly with a previous post that the song isn't an important part of the ride. I think having specialized music for an attraction is exactly the kind of "plussed" entertainment that has been part of Disney. Going to attractions without that element is a tremendous loss in entertainment quality and enjoyment for me.
