Originally Posted By danyoung Gotta agree with you, magnet. The music in Soarin' or Carousel of Progress or even, heck, Small World, is just as important as the other elements of the attraction.
Originally Posted By Disney and beyond I wasn't saying that I don't like the songs on the rides. I'm just saying that it isn't the end of the world if there is not. Some of my favorite songs are from the Disney parks. What I'm really trying to say is that songs are great, but not nescicary. I do think that it hurts that this era doesn't have a Sherman Brothers or a X that is just good at writing park music.
Originally Posted By brotherdave Can you even imagine Small World without the song? All jokes aside, I don't think that attraction would have the same impact it did without that catchy Sherman Brothers song. Songs are JUST as important to some attractions as the ride theme itself. Music helps set the mood. Imagine the Haunted Mansion without it's spooky music. Yes, it would still be good, but the music helps set the mood. And "Grim Grinning Ghosts" is an exceptional song!
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^ Same can be said for POTC. Can you even imagine going on that ride without the music.
Originally Posted By leobloom You mean to tell me none of you remember the theme song of Monsters Inc Comedy Club, "MILF, It Does a Body Good"??
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I can't seem to think of any that don't have music with it. What one's am I not thinking about? The only one I can think of is TTA and that might even have one that I don't remember.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<~The Day The Music Died~ I've been enjoying your pithy "signature-quotes", and this one is particularly appropriate!>> Thanks, X. I actually do them for no one but myself (usually). If someone else enjoys them, that's icing on the cake. And sadly, you're right. That one was very appropriate. ~Blueberry cheesecake, to be exact~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I don't actually know how to put my exact thoughts into words, but here it goes.>> Usually a good time to not. <<As long as the ride is good, I could care less about the song. People don't go for the song, they go for the ride.>> I could write a song about the above, but it would likely sound like gangsta rap with all the f bombs tossed in. Suffice to say, your point is totally 100% correct while at the same time being totally 100% incorrect when it comes to Disney attractions. They have (until the WalMart Era took hold) been viewed as stories. And much like any good film, you have music to help set the tone and tell the tale. Listen to the Land did that. Grim Grinning Ghosts still does. But when you put crap into parks such as Primeval Whirl or Stitch's Great Belchoff or Test Track (yeah, had to toss that in whether people love it or not), there's not much that would make you hear music, let alone inspire a song. And let's face it, if your attraction has no memorable sound then Disney doesn't have to pay anyone to write and record it. <<The lack of songs has been a sign of the times. For two reasons: 1. The extreme lack of amazing songwriters outside of Alan Menken, who is only now getting back to Disney to work on Rapunzel.>> Sorry. You lose. Menken may be a great musical talent, but saying there aren't any other would be akin to saying Disney needs execs like Phil Holmes because there's no one else out there. <<2. The change to thrill rides, which is not an entirely a bad thing.>> When they are mindless 2-3 minutes in awarehouse/sounstage type building, it is. And you can have a thrill ride with music. Hell, Disney pioneered that with things like Mansion, Splash Mountain, Indy, not to mention new versions of Space Mountain and RnRC. <<And its not like I hate Disney Music. I've got over 250 Disney related songs on my iPod. I'm just saying that the lack of songs is not the end of the world.>> Continually lowering quality in every aspect of their business isn't the end of the world, but is simply a microcosm of a world that is a much dumber, uglier and simple place. I love music. All kinds. And at Disney, music is requisite. If you don't think so go see Wishes or Reflections of Earth or Fantasmic with no music. Or take a ride on PoC or SW with none. <<"Nostalgia is a Poison in our Modern Society.">> ~Imitators shall be shot~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I agree. It's kind of sad when we start to lose sight of what use to be the overall Disney experience.>> We haven't lost sight ... or sound of what the overall experience at Disney should be. ~Those MAGIGAL fanbois though ... oy vey~
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost So again...where is there no music. I hear it everywhere, including Test Track. It may not be as catchy or as dominant because, well frankly, the public wants thrill rides and if your heart is in your throat most of the time it is likely you won't be conscience of the music, but it's there. What everyone is remembering is the old stuff from the now missing dark rides where you had the time to hear it. There really is no sense in spending thousands on a sound track that no one hears. The rides that still can use music as a defining part of the show, still do. Even the newest version of Imagination has music, Canada, USA, Norway, Mexico, Nemo, Soarin', Land and so on and that's just in Epcot. What about GMR, Mermaid, Star Tours, Muppets, Indiana Jones, ToT and RcRC in DHS. How about Pirates, Tiki Room, Splash Mtn., Country Bears, Big Thunder, Haunted Mansion, HoP, Buzz, CoP, Laugh Floor, Dumbo, the Carousel, Peter Pan, Pooh, Snow White, Philharmagic, Small World and even the Tea Cups in MK. I think there is way more music there than anyone is admitting too.
Originally Posted By magnet Music of Test Track?! LMAO! Test Track's queue is filled with a cacophony of shattering glass and crumpling metal. That junk doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as music in the World Showcase.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 The problem with the newer attraction music is that it's just music - no songs. Background music is essential, and great, but Disney really needs to invest in some new, longer attractions with some new, memorable theme songs. It's been way, way to long since they built rides like Journey into Imagination, Haunted Mansion, Horizons or Small World at WDW. Give us an actual ride-through animatronic, attraction - not a two minute thrill ride!!! (And give us a great new song too!)
Originally Posted By danyoung >...the public wants thrill rides and if your heart is in your throat most of the time it is likely you won't be conscience of the music, but it's there.< The attraction that disproves your theory is DL's Space Mountain. That Dick Dale soundtrack was incredible! The new track is OK, but not really even in the same league as the DD track. And SM is a thrill ride, but it works great with the identifiable music track.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost OK, Dan but that isn't the theory I was trying to put forth. Even Test Track, although, high tech sounds, not really music, is identifiable with the attraction and unless or until Disney goes back to slow, dark rides the old "sing along" type stuff isn't really appropriate. The lack of pleasant music is really and offshoot of less pleasant attractions. Since no one, except we few, want them... they aren't needed and won't be coming soon. There's just no place to play them.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<Since no one, except we few, want them...>> I'm not sure you can really know that it's just "we few" who want them. When's the last time that Disney really made a top-notch, slow-moving, ride-through attraction? It hasn't been done since the 80s really (in the US anyway), so it's hard to say how the public would react. It will be interesting to see how the general public reacts to the Little Mermaid ride at DCA in a few years.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost ^^^^That's exactly what I said, only in different words. No slow rides, no need for those special "Disney Attraction Themed Songs".
Originally Posted By hopemax Of course, this thread is referencing a song that played in a pre-show...
