Originally Posted By Chelledun I actually found that I had a lot easier getting up early to go to the parks when I WAS a kid! You're so excited! My family during our first visits with myself (8) and my sister (3) was at the park an hour before opening every single day! We were crazy pumped! As an adult it is much harder to get myself out of bed on vacation.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>A lot people don't realize that's what it means.<< That's because that is not what your codename says... since I found it unpronounceable.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Anyways... to add more fuel to this fire... in regards to allowing guest to enter FP lines *after* their time window is up, defeats the purpose of minimizing the wait time for those in the stand by line. Since at TDR, many guests complaint about the 1-hr window being too little time to return (concidering how crowded that park can get), a decision was made to make the FP window there a 2-hour window. I would not mind if they decided to implement that change at WDW as well AS LONG AS they stick to their gun and refuse entry to those who missed their window. No buts, ifs or what have yous... without exception.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy What it kind of comes down to is this -- Some people's definition of "fair" seems to be "get into the race with everyone else for your share of the pie." Some other people's definition of "fair" is "I'd like to be able to have a chance to ride on at least one of the premium E-tickets sometime today without having to wait in the Standby queue. But without having to join the rope-drop crowd to do this."
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Wait until you see the photos I am posting by the weekend about FP lines at TDL at *opening time*. then tell me if FP is a fair system.. at least in Japan.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m ^^And as I said in your other thread, I'd love to know how often all FP for ALL of the E tickets in any given park are all taken by a certain time. I know I've heard of it happening on here for TT or Soarin'. But seriously, how often are all of the FP for all of the attractions gone by say 5 PM?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I personally am a rope-drop person. I also realized long ago that my best chance to see the big attractions are to go early and hit them right away. I do this and it works, even during the busy season. So why does a person who can hit all the big rides early (like me) need FastPass at all? I don't really. I can spend the rest of the day doing the more laid back rides when the E-tickets are jammed. Yet I can still get E-ticket FP's,perhaps to give to my friends. At the cost of some other guest not getting an FP at all.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy So TDLFAN -- were you at the Flower Festival opening this morning? I was. They unveiled the new Disney Romance stamps at the same time. Al Weiss and Brad Rex were there. So was Mickey & Minnie, Belle & Beast, Cindy and Prince, Lady and the Tramp. (Who easily got more attention than ALL the others...) FYI -- The confetti cannons shot off at kickoff time, of course. But they were full of flower petals! Not confetti!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>So TDLFAN -- were you at the Flower Festival opening this morning? I was.<< No, I wasn't. Due to my jetlag, I went to bed at 5am and got up just before 1pm. About flower petals instead of confetti... they do the same every year. Reason why I don't make a point to go to the Festival's opening anymore. But got to get the AP exclusive Pin sometime.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> About flower petals instead of confetti... they do the same every year << I did not know that -- thanks! I'll park that bit of info away for the next time I'm on Jeopardy.
Originally Posted By NJFIREGUY <<I work too hard at work -- I don't want to take a vacation where everything is schedulized down to when I buy a churro and go pee-pee>> so who said micro manage??? Schedulize??? You dont have to do either and Im not suggesting that. But are you telling me as a Disney regular you dont go to the parks "Smart" in terms of knowing things like what park is busier when, The best time of the year to go etc. So how does FP Knowledge differ from any of this? The fact of the matter is if you take the time to figure out what your doing your going to have an easier time of it and thats just life. Look the way I see it Im with DVC Dad I LOVE FAST PASS. If you want to whine about it go ahead. Im not a Rope Drop guy and Ive never had a problem using it. And if there are rules they should be enforced.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>But are you telling me as a Disney regular you dont go to the parks "Smart" in terms of knowing things like what park is busier when<< Concidering how DUMB tourists are when at WDW, that's an interesting perspective.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Look the way I see it Im with DVC Dad I LOVE FAST PASS. If you want to whine about it go ahead. < Count me in -- I just read thru this whole thread after being away for 2 days -- wow, you'd think they tore down an E ticket and put up a playground or something for as upset as everyone is.. As I just posed on the part 2 thread -- if they want to limit the number you can get per day fine, I only use a few anyway - but they DO strategically help me plan my day...and I do not do the parks as a commando and have not in years...
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> as upset as everyone is..<< I don't think that's the case. Mostly just good spirited discussion. Even if they are wrong. (joking) (really...joking)
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <If you want to whine about it go ahead.> We're discussing it you crab. Nobody is whining. If you don't want to discuss, go to another thread. Or better yet, create your own 'I HEART FASTPASS' thread.
Originally Posted By NJFIREGUY <<Nobody is whining. If you don't want to discuss, go to another thread. Or better yet, create your own 'I HEART FASTPASS' thread.>> I wasnt Calling anyone a whiner I was quoting post #41 but then again if the whine fits bust out the cheese.
Originally Posted By crazyformickey For me fast pass works. With a 9 year old and a 3 year old I can get a fast pass for lets say Space Mountain a ride my daughter can't go on. Then I can go on some rides we can all go on and return to space mountain and get on with little or no wait which makes it easier for whomever is with me to help with my daughter. In most cases I am early to use my fast pass so I really try not to abuse the system. I can see how those who choose not to use fast pass can get upset, I have waited in the stand-by line and seen those run by me I get a little upset but I know I used it so it's only fair I have to wait while others use it.
Originally Posted By schoolsinger Here is a way to help balance things out between those who show up to the park early and those who come late. Allow people to gain early access into the park in exchange for giving up their fastpass privileges.
