Originally Posted By skinnerbox << So is Cinderella>> Actually, we're both wrong. The oldest version of Cinderella is Chinese, with the oldest European version being Italian. There is a Russian version of Cinderella. There's also one from France and the Grimm Brothers. But the original Cinderella is not French.
Originally Posted By doombuggy I did a search and there is great debate if SB is Russian,French or German. It was first put to paper in French but the story had been around for like 100 years before it was written down. Shelly Duvall did it based in Russia and she is a collector of fairy tales and their origins.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I think the first definitive versions of Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty are French. But if you want to get really technical about it you could go as far back as the cave man days and say they had a version of those same tales as well. But you wouldn't recognize them compared to the better known versions of today. So it's all a matter of which version you care to regognize as the definitive. Apparently Disney Management recognizes the French versions and that's why Aurora and Cinderella are positioned in France whenever they're seen in World Showcase at Epcot.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: If you're referring to the Prince's mother and how she wanted to kill Aurora and her two children, I'd have to agree. There is a good reason as to why the second half of the story isn't mentioned in any of the more recent re-tellings of the tale. The Queen/Morther turned out to be an ogress who dared to threaten the lives of her own son's children while he was away on some sort of expedition. Thankfully Aurora was cunning enough to save herself and her children before they came to a bad end. But the Queen/Mother was thrown into a pit of snakes as a punishment, if memory serves...
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: You're talking about King Hubert's wife. No wonder Disney animators didn't even bother to draw her for the Disney version of Sleeping Beauty. The fact that she wasn't seen or even mentioned in the Disney version made me think she must have died before Aurora was born and that was why she didn't show up at the baby's Christening.
Originally Posted By doombuggy never heard of that one. The one I've heard is depending on which version. She's left in the woods to sleep then either a nobleman or her own father...well you know. She has kids while still under the spell the king hears about this and he eats them, and they all lived happily ever after.
Originally Posted By Bellella Survey says- flopping or flying? So, when is this story (in the "Sleeping Beauty" narrative) supposed to take place? Quite honestly, I'm afraid to see it. I don't want anything to taint or spoil my love for the animated "Sleeping Beauty". I'm thinking this movie might just do that.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I were worried about that, as well, Bellella, duckling--especially since the articles we've been reading mention the fact that Flora, Fauna & Merryweather's names have been changed to something totally different--or maybe they aren't really supposed to be the same original fairies at all. ORWEN: But we've decided to just conjur the movie up inside our crystal ball, anyway, and relate to it like it was something different. Maybe that'll make it easier. ORDDU: Aside from that, this IS Maleficent's version of the story so you already KNOW she's going to be giving a perverted version of the tale. ORWEN: That's probably why she didn't include the 3 original good fairies in it. She doesn't want anybody remembering who her original arch enemies were!!!
Originally Posted By Bellella Perverted story? Just check out a little something called "Fairest Of Them All."
Originally Posted By Yookeroo Perverted story? That's would be Anne Rice's version of Sleeping Beauty.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I'm saying that Maleficent is so evil that you can't trust anything that comes out of her mouth.
