Originally Posted By socalkdg <<<< and the 'rules' of 'Disney Theme Parks' seemed to be tossed to the wind.>>>> Disneyland had broken these rules years ago.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <<<< and the 'rules' of 'Disney Theme Parks' seemed to be tossed to the wind.>>>> Disneyland had broken these rules years ago.> You think so? Maybe you can find a few cracks here and there at Disneyland, but DCA had the most obvious ones I've seen.
Originally Posted By believe >>>>> However, I'm still waiting for Tony Baxter's supercharged Main Street Cinema... : / <<<<< Well, they did just put some "new" movies in there. That's a big change considering they've been playing Steamboat Willie forever.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 i was there last thursday and it had a 45 minute wait...longest ive ever seen in my LIFE! there was only one tower going and there were a couple wraps around the white queue fencing...i dont understand why anyone would want to wait that long for a stupid short ride like Maliboomer
Originally Posted By TP2000 Hista98, sweetie, we all knew Maliboomer's days were numbered. I remember well the online debate about it going away from back in '03 when Tower of Terror was under construction. I'm sure those discussions are archived here on LP if you want to check 'em out. I was just hoping you had a link to a great new website, as I'm a sucker for juicy Disney gossip. We just didn't know when, after talking about it for nearly a decade. It's nice we've got a date, and I'm going to make myself ride it one last time this month. I haven't been on that ride in about 7 or 8 years, and I won't miss it one bit.
Originally Posted By socalkdg <<<<You think so? Maybe you can find a few cracks here and there at Disneyland, but DCA had the most obvious ones I've seen.>>>> Currently the monorail is a big offender if we still consider it more a ride than transportation. The trip along Harbor is as bad as it gets. The Skyway was always a problem as well. I always enjoyed the Skyway (on a side note my last memory of it was New Years Eve drinking a bottle of champagne on it with a girl I had met while going to school at UCSB in 85/86). What is considered acceptable viewing? When the doors open on TOT and you see the Matterhorn, is that fine? What about on Expedition Everest when you can see Epcot? I enjoy seeing other parts of the park while riding MFW, and I always made sure to have a park view when riding Maliboomer. I completely understand not wanting to see anything outside the park, but since we can all make our own choices on what to ride, we can avoid something that might take us out of the moment.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <I completely understand not wanting to see anything outside the park, but since we can all make our own choices on what to ride, we can avoid something that might take us out of the moment.> Ah ha! So, now -- along with 'you're thinking about it too much' in reference to 'attention to detail' issues, -- isual intrustions are now the responsibility of the guest? 'Just don't look over there' Got it.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz Removal of the Maliboomer is like the release of one (of four shackles)on the road to freedom!
Originally Posted By socalkdg <<<<<<Ah ha! So, now -- along with 'you're thinking about it too much' in reference to 'attention to detail' issues, -- visual intrustions are now the responsibility of the guest? 'Just don't look over there' Got it.>>>>>>> You ignored the rest of my comment. What is acceptable and what isn't? Was Walt's Skyway acceptable? The current monorail? Expedition Everest? Seeing the castle while on Splash Mountain? Is it just seeing outside the berm? Or seeing other lands while riding something? Would Maliboomer be acceptable if the only view was into the DCA? All of these things and more occur in every park ever made from day one. All are intrusions of one type or another. Does not the guest decide in their mind whether its considered a problem or not? Is this not the case? The same goes with attention to detail. I read a complaint today that said that DCA's bay didn't have an outlet to the ocean thus was a problem. Hmm, guess what, Rivers of America goes in a circle. Where are the limits, or should there be any limits?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt ^^I agree. It's especially obvious when looking at old photos of DL that, even with the berm surrounding the park, you could clearly see the surrounding area from ground level without trying hard. Take a look at the power lines visible in this old Casey Jr. post card: <a href="http://www.disneylandpostcards.com/flcaseyjr.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.disneylandpostcards...eyjr.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Here's a couple more interesting shots: <a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_A4grLYnNdu4/SEf_5QTts-I/AAAAAAAAAoI/jrC722fN2i8/s400/20080602+Tomorrowland+Station+ca.+1959.jpg" target="_blank">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_A4gr...1959.jpg</a> <a href="http://davelandweb.com/blog/dickgardner/rwg32_phantomboats.jpg" target="_blank">http://davelandweb.com/blog/di...oats.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I would have walked right up to City Hall and demanded those power lines come down right then and there!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Or better yet CC, you could have formed a letter writing campaign to the Disney head office in Burbank.
Originally Posted By socalkdg And the Skyway, which I miss. <a href="http://www.yesterland.com/skyway.html" target="_blank">http://www.yesterland.com/skyway.html</a>
Originally Posted By socalkdg The view from Expedition Everest <a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/436465232_f029995725_o.jpg" target="_blank">http://farm1.static.flickr.com...25_o.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "And the Skyway, which I miss." Funny how in the 5th image on that page you can see the old Grand Hotel. The power lines that are also visible which ironically can now be seen from inside DCA.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA ^^^Are you guys for real here? Or are you just poking my eyes out? I guess my standards of what 'Disney Theme Park Design' are -- are higher. When I see these old pictures from the first few weeks and years of Disneyland, my thought is 'yeah, okay 55 years ago, some visual intrustions were noticable, and in certain cases VERY noticeable. But come on, the 'Disney Theme Park Design' Book was brand new, and with the changes in the park, and the experimentation happening on the fly, the developing and expanding of the Playbook was also changing on a daily basis. Bottom line for me -- Some of visual intrusions from the old days of Disneyland simply wouldn't be (and aren't) acceptable today. Certainly not with a brand new park in 2001, that you're designing from the ground up. That's why I got so disgusted when I was walking through Paradise Pier and the Wharf area, and the power lines and Anaheim Convention Center were so clearly seen from inside DCA. To me, it was an egregious case of 'bad show' Just as some of the early Jungle Cruise AA figures were in certain instances clunky and robotic, they've continued to upgrade the technology, and, we have come to expect much more advanced animatronics like Indiana Jones and Captain Jack Sparrow in 'Pirates of the Caribbean.' Yes, there are blatant visual intrustions in early Disneyland -- yes, even in Walt's time. But the 'Disney Theme Park Design' book has come a long way in 55 years. And you can't really go backwards.
