Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<it seems that only the Beck-like "information" penetrates your brain.>> This. In spades.
Originally Posted By Donny From what I hear about you(From a pretty good source) Single Park Passholder being you is a sad waste of life.Thats why I have stopped making fun of you. just sad
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Donny, with all due respect... knock it off. Who the F do you think you are, to personally attack another poster on these boards, when you've gone off on rants against *us* for supposedly doing the same thing to YOU??? Where I come from, that's being a HYPOCRITE. Granted, SPP could have used a more tactful way of expressing his thoughts on this matter. Calling you an "idiot" was a poor choice of words, no matter the amount of truthfulness contained within his message. Plus, you called both me and Dabob "stupid" for supposedly not remembering something you posted long ago. Seriously? You personally attack SPP for his comments, yet feel fully justified in personally attacking me and Dabob, when we didn't attack you? Again, your hypocrisy is glaring. Donny, you claimed to have posted previously that you watch Joe Scarborough. Well... if you do actually watch Morning Joe, then how come you didn't catch the details regarding the payroll tax deal that Joe specifically addressed? He spelled it all out for you, Donny. It was information that could easily be verified with a 2 minute Google search. But you chose not to verify Joe's info, and instead chose to listen to Beck and the empty talking heads at Fox in their attacks against Obama. Now who's being "stupid"? You're obviously suffering from what some pundits refer to as "Obama Derangement Syndrome." Your hatred of the President is so deep and so intense, it completely clouds your judgement and ability to think logically on any issue that the President supports, even those that the GOP has traditionally supported for eons. It has even worsened your hypocrisy when it comes to defending your illogical conclusions and selective media viewing choices. The best thing you can do for yourself, your co-workers, your friends, and especially your family, is to grow the F up. You are the very definition of someone with a 'sad life,' Donny. Someone who continues to believe the lies being fed to him by those who couldn't care less about the middle class life he leads.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Guys as someone who used to do what Donny does, if you acknowledge what he's doing, then you're just encouraging it. It's simply best to ignore him for a bit. With that said I hope everyone truly had a wonderful Christmas today with friends and family and any travels you had or will have be safe and sound.
Originally Posted By Donny There are bullies on this forum and skinnerbox and SPP are two of the biggest offenders in my book just a few posts ago skinnerbox said "Donny appears to have a stronger need to justify his hatred for non-white, non-Republican, non-straight, non-Christian politicians" and also "Donny will never actively seek out the truth of any political situation" Now both those statements are very untrue so don't act like the two of you are innocent victims. When I went to the D23 event I had the priviledge to meet a bully from this forum and I notice the little worm would not say to me what he said on the forum.As we talked he introduced me to his wife at the end I got to look him in the eye and ask if he felt the personal attacks were a good idea and we both agreed no.
Originally Posted By Donny I don't know if there are any DEMS brave enough to admit that calling a person a raciest just because they are a member of the G.O.P. is about as stupid as calling a DEM a communist.In posts by both SPP and Skinnerbox you can see I take attack after personal attack by these cowards who don't know me and the life I have strived to live.There are people on this website who know me well and know I am not a racist and know my constant life of service to my country,family and God.I do not like to personally attack anyone I wish those who want to discuss our differences in beliefs and polices and keep the ugliness for when you know somthing about someone not when you are just trying to be mean.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I'm going to put this to you as simply and as plainly as I can, Donny. You have never demonstrated any logical justifications for why you hate Obama. You consistently and continually make statements about our President that are patently false and easily proven to be false. Yet you still post these falsehoods, like the ones about the payroll tax holiday, as if they're gospel truth. You never fact-check anything you hear on radio and TV or read on the internet. If the statements you hear or read fit your world view of Obama, if the statements support your hatred of our President, then you fully accept them as factual without actually checking to see if they're true. And because of these actions by you, these consistent and continual behaviors on your part, you have aligned yourself with other Obama haters who are fully obvious in their racism. Most Obama haters at your level of hatred are racist, Donny. They hate Obama first and foremost because he's the scary 'N word' in the White House, not because he's a Democrat. And most of these racist individuals attempt to claim, as you do, that they only hate Obama's policies and not him personally, even though they cannot site relevant and factual info regarding said policies to justify the hatred. Until you can consistently post factual information regarding what Obama supposedly does or does not want as policy, how Obama does or does not view the future of the nation, I will continue to see your hatred for Obama as racism, no matter what your friends or family think. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions bespeak a racist attitude towards our President.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "From what I hear about you(From a pretty good source) Single Park Passholder being you is a sad waste of life.Thats why I have stopped making fun of you. just sad." And now you're a liar. Outside of Dabob, no one here on this board has ever met me, knows me, or would even know what I look like. Go away.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Another thing- What I wrote in post 22 is the truth. I'm not about to apologize for it. If it gets admined, that's the owner's prerogative. But Donny represents everything that's wrong about our country right now, the political process that is stalemating it, and devotion to an ideology. This little exchange here proves it- there's a purposeful effort to completely misrepresent the truth to fit their own agenda. I've said it before- engaging these extremists in a polite way just encourages them. They only understand a kick in the teeth, because that's what they truly aim to do to those who disagree with them and to the country. The hell with them all. I'm damn sick and tired of Donny's ilk f'ing things up. Obama is far from the ideal president, but when he trounces whatever Bozo graduates from the GOP clown college Donny belongs to, hopefully they'll just whither and die on the political vine, and let the adults resume running the country.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I don't disagree with the motivation behind post #30. And yes, I do agree that the individual in question is what Archie Bunker would call a "meathead." But I still feel the best way to deal with people like Donny is by NOT lowering one's self to their level. Donny constantly engages in personal attacks, especially when he doesn't have a factual counterargument when we highlight the falsehoods of his statements. For Donny to criticize us for attacking him is hypocrisy at its worst. But why would we want to lower ourselves to his level and engage in the same petty personal attacks? We are better than that. Calling Donny names will not change him, nor will kicking him in the _________, no matter how much better it would make you feel. Donny's kind will never change, no matter how many times to point out the truth to them. They simply refuse to believe the world is different than what they perceive it to be. I feel it's better to point out his stupidity by tearing apart his false claims and GOP talking points with the truth, rather than directly attacking him as a person by calling him an idiot. It doesn't give him any justification to personally attack us, when he stammers and stumbles and resorts to name calling in a foolish attempt to save face. You can be a better person simply by not emulating his behavior. Stay classy. That's the best revenge of all.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I'm also a little uncomfortable with playing the racist card. We really have no way of knowing how Donny feels about race. Many people in the area where I live hate Obama and for most of them it has nothing to do with race (though for some it does). The majority of the Obama-haters do so because they are convinced (erroneously in my opinion) that he is trying to lead the country to Socialism... they would feel the same way about a white president who did the same.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I was gonna say that having someone who just called Donny a racist tell me to stay classier because I called him an idiot was somewhat incongruous, but whatever. I'll still say with my pejorative. His posts here reveal no other description.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox In defense of my actions, I didn't come right out and state, "Donny, you're a racist." Please show me where I made such a declarative comment. What I did post was specific to Donny's attitude regarding Obama: "Until you can consistently post factual information regarding what Obama supposedly does or does not want as policy, how Obama does or does not view the future of the nation, I will continue to see your hatred for Obama as racism, no matter what your friends or family think." I kept my statement regarding racism specific to Donny's online behavior regarding Obama. I did not paint Donny with the broader brush of being a racist overall. And yes, I believe someone can be a racist towards a specific ethnicity and perhaps a specific group or even individual, just as someone can be a bigot towards a specific minority such as Muslims or gays. Telling Donny that his Obama hatred is probably fueled by racism is not the same as calling the guy "an idiot." I gave very specific reasons for why I believe the way I do. You simply hurled an insult at him and left. Big difference.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<The majority of the Obama-haters do so because they are convinced (erroneously in my opinion) that he is trying to lead the country to Socialism... they would feel the same way about a white president who did the same.>> But I'll bet those individuals can site specific actions on the part of Obama which they have concluded to be Socialist in nature. Donny can't even do that. He keeps spouting off 'facts' about what Obama has supposedly done or will do that just aren't true. He doesn't bother to fact check anything before he posts and pretty much only listens to other Obama haters who've repeatedly been caught lying through their collective teeth about the President. There's a big difference between someone who sees what Obama has accomplished and wants to accomplish and believes it's not the way the country should be heading, versus someone who has very little knowledge about what Obama has actually done or wants to do, and has zero interest in finding out the truth in the matter. Donny clearly falls in the latter group, which the majority of the Obama Derangement Syndrome crowd also does. And the major fuel for the ODS crowd is racism.
Originally Posted By barboy ///In defense of my actions, I didn't come right out and state, "Donny, you're a racist." //// I think 'offense' would have fit much better. Here's your more around the backdoor way of calling him such a pejorative from #17: ///.....his(Donny's) hatred for non-white, non-Republican, non-straight, non-Christian politicians..///
Originally Posted By barboy Anyway, as far as Will Hunting I both fully agree with his assessment and I find him exceptionally naive for lacking the life experience to foresee the obvious: elected and/or appointed politicians, close to always, can not be trusted. At 38 he should have known better.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Telling Donny that his Obama hatred is probably fueled by racism is not the same as calling the guy "an idiot." I gave very specific reasons for why I believe the way I do. You simply hurled an insult at him and left. Big difference." I called him that and "left" because that's all he deserves at this point. You're splitting hairs in a major way trying to defend yourself, but so what. You used the word racist or racism a total of four times that I counted in that post. Face it, you were calling him a racist. Pussy footing around and saying his level of hatred or his attitude reflects it is just another way of doing it. I at least was direct. But here's the thing- he probably is what you called him, so who cares? Nothing he's ever posted here suggests another conclusion.
Originally Posted By barboy Donny ///From what I hear about you(From a pretty good source) Single Park Passholder being you is a sad waste of life.Thats why I have stopped making fun of you. just sad./ SinglePark ///And now you're a liar. Outside of Dabob, no one here on this board has ever met me, knows me, or would even know what I look like. Go away./// hmmmm??? But Donny claims to have *HEARD* something from what he says is a good source. What if that so called "source" has made some determination about you solely from reading your posts and has never met you in person? I just don't see how you can conclude that Donny lied. I think a safer position is that Donny lacks credibilty with this 'sad waste of life' business.
