Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Amen Dug. KBF used to be amazing to me in the way DL used to as well. They both stimulated my emotions and my mind. Sadly both have reduced their vision.
Originally Posted By avimagine ^^ So basically what your saying is I should have been born 20 yrs before I was to enjoy the parks I'd love to enjoy.
Originally Posted By brotherdave >>But I am OK with there being SOME offerings that are not family friendly. A lot of Disney fans would say there is no need to EVER build an attraction like Millenium Force because there 3 year old princess can't ride it. << I'm ok with that, too. But there needs to be more than just thrill rides and kiddie rides. Dark rides are an obvious family friendly attraction that everyone can enjoy. But there are some mild thrill rides that most people can enjoy, too. Cedar Point does have a few smaller height limit rides, but they need a few more, and some with even lower height limits that the entire family can enjoy, not just kiddie rides. They used to have a log flume with a very low height limit as long as the child rode with an adult. Their new Shoot the Rapids has a 46" height limit, so smaller kids who want to ride can't like they were able to on the old White Water Landing flume ride. They could mix up the new attractions every few years. One year a big thrill ride or coaster, another for a family friendly ride, another year for kiddie expansions. etc. They just need a little more variety.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>^^ So basically what your saying is I should have been born 20 yrs before I was to enjoy the parks I'd love to enjoy.<<< You and me both!
Originally Posted By dagobert Is Knott's Berry Farm like Cedar Point? I have been to CP in 2007 and loved that park, especially Maverick and Top Thrill Dragster. Is it worth to vist KBF when being in Los Angeles or should I skip it in favour for a fourth day at DL or for a second day at Universal Studios?
Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes This is the best news ever. I'm sorry that no one will allow Silver Bullet to be ripped out (and I think it's a great coaster, yet it killed Knott's theming)but I think Ouimet will improve every one of CF's properties. I hope he concentrates on Knott's.
Originally Posted By brotherdave Knott's and Cedar Point are two totally different types of parks. Although a few Cedar Point-like rides were added to Knott's over the years (Silver Bullet, Xcelerator), Knott's still has a considerable amount of theming and older attractions (Log Flume, Calico Mine Ride, Train, Stagecoach), while only one large section of Cedar Point has any theming at all (Frontier Trail/Frontier Town). Most of Cedar Point's theming is superficial at best, though some of the Frontier Trail is very nice. Knott's is a little more substantial, though Cedar Fair has "un-did" some of it over the years by adding the big coasters around them. Knott's is more family oriented still with a few thrill rides while Cedar Point is HUGE and loaded with thrill rides and coasters, and not so many family rides (though they do have a few).
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Hey, Matt - Cedar Fair needs to build a park in the Pacific Northwest! thx
Originally Posted By CDF1 From post 47: "Knott's still has a considerable amount of theming and older attractions (Log Flume, Calico Mine Ride, Train, Stagecoach)" I would agree - Knott's management has done a good job of at least preserving a mixture of rides that will appeal to all age levels. Yes - the most recent additions are more of the Cedar Point high-octane thrill rides (next one is a 300-foot tower version of the old swinging chair ride) but they have kept some of the older more family-oriented attractions going - space limitations hve played havoc with the theming aspects of the park, particularly the Ghost Town where you now have a suspended steel coaster running directly overhead of a stagecoach ride. Also, not to be overlooked is Knott's penchant for offering deals and/or discounts which make them far more economical than DLR - for instance, they have a summer deal of an all-you-can-eat BBQ (which is usually very good) plus park admission for $44 or they have a "late rate" ticket for $25 from 4PM to midnight on Friday/Saturday nights - these are great deals compared to the standard Disney $75 one-park ticket.
Originally Posted By dshyates For all the Knott's fans here is some encouraging words from their new leader: "These parks – and Disney's the same way – have to be part timeless and part timely," "You've got to respect the legacy, but you also have to respect the world's changed, and the consumer's changed. ... You have to respect the future, or you won't be here 50 years from now.” That quote comes from Screamscape. Here is the link: <a href="http://screamscape.com/html/knott_s_berry_farm.htm" target="_blank">http://screamscape.com/html/kn...farm.htm</a>
Originally Posted By dshyates Dang, that should be "...here ARE some encouraging words." Can I blame bad grammar on my iPhone?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Here's the link to the OC Register article from which the above quote was taken: <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/news/knott-306810-ouimet-park.html" target="_blank">http://www.ocregister.com/news...ark.html</a> I've been told by folks who know Matt personally and professionally, that Knott's is his second favorite park, after DL. I'm looking forward to seeing what Matt can accomplish as CF's new CEO. Now to begin the inevitable rumors regarding the future of Knott's new "creative team." Matt Ouimet is good friends with Tony Baxter. And as every Baxter fan knows, Tony loves The Farm. (Check out the foreword Baxter wrote for Chris Merritt's fabulous book, "Knott's Preserved," for conformation.) Tony apparently isn't working on any major project for WDI now. Plus, he turns 65 next February, at which time he can retire from Disney with full benefits. Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?
Originally Posted By brotherdave I'm hoping that Matt brings some magic to ALL of Cedar Fair's parks over the next few years. I'm glad to hear that Knott's will receive some love and some TLC from him. I also hope that the company's flagship park, Cedar Point, looks beyond iron rides for the future, too. Coasters are great, but just imagine if CP added some awesome family themed adventures within, too. That park sorely needs some dark rides!
Originally Posted By Manfried ""You've got to respect the legacy, but you also have to respect the world's changed, and the consumer's changed. ... You have to respect the future, or you won't be here 50 years from now. "I see Knott's evolving over time. I can't tell you the specifics on day 10 (on the job), but we're going to spend a lot of time asking the consumer what they want." What does this mean? More of the same or not at Knott's?
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<What does this mean? More of the same or not at Knott's?>> No, this means guests being acosted at the main entry plaza by someone wanting to gather information about them; Just like Disneyland.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I am more than glad to participate in guest surveys. I respect companies who really do try to find out what their guests want. If the airlines did it maybe I wouldn't hate flying so much.
