Originally Posted By oc_dean >So I think the only ones complaining are the usual suspects. You know, frequent APers.< So, the new bobsleds are perfectly fine then?
Originally Posted By Kidz-n-k9s They were for me too. Let me rephrase that - I found them no more or less comfortable than the previous version. The ride still hurts my back and the sled didn't make it any worse or better.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I read the center of gravity is positioned higher than the '78 bobsleds. Coupled with it's exact dimensions, inside ... is making for an uncomfortable ride.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I guess i am in the minority with liking bumpy coasters. I find the Matterhorn to be pretty mild in comparison to the WDW Space Mountain or a coaster like Ghost rider at Knotts.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Comfort wise, for me, the new sleds are fine. But they give me a more secure feeling which cuts the down on the thrill. :-( That said, we rode with a friend of a friend who got off the ride holding his back saying "never again". It was his first ride on Matterhorn ever.
Originally Posted By Eazy-E Ticket Interesting how no one is complaining that the new seats eliminate the "bobsled" experience. I mean, sitting one in front of the other mimics a two-man bobsled. Bobsled riders don't sit next to each other. So it's no longer the Matterhorn bobsleds; it's now the Matterhorn...APVs?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Bobsled riders don't sit next to each other." The new seating is not "next to each other". The riders are in a straight line as before however each person has their own seat.
Originally Posted By Manfried I have ridden them, both sides, twice apiece. I did not have a problem with them at all.
Originally Posted By Eazy-E Ticket Dr HR, thanks for the clarification. I had not seen the bobsleds post-redo, and for some reason assumed the new seating is side-by-side. My point still stands, however, in that putting seats and a "wall" between passengers makes the vehicles less like bobsleds, in which riders are up against one another with no wall in between.
Originally Posted By CDF2 I'm in total agreement with Dr. Hans in his post #33 - rode the new bobsleds yesterday and the lack of padding on the seat back is simply ridiculous - its almost like nobody at Disney took the time to actually ride in the new bobsleds before signing them off. Won't be trying the Matterhorn again until the cooler winter months when one might be able to use a sweatshirt or a jacket as some padding back there. Otherwise the ride seemed pretty much as it has been since they installed all of the ice cavern additions back in the 70's.
Originally Posted By believe Kind of strange that they didn't design it better. They had plenty of time. We've been seeing pictures of the prototype bobsleds for the past few years and they basically look the same as what was installed. So, it seemed like they designed it, built it, and waited 2,3, 4 years to install them.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Maybe the same team that created the "fabulous" Mark VII Monorail trains ... also created the 3rd generation bobsleds! And I can't say I ever cared for the 2nd generation "Tonka Toy" edition of the "it's a small world" boats. Be afraid of new vehicle designs for classic attractions in the future. BE VERY AFRAID! cough-PeterPan-cough cough-BTMR-cough
Originally Posted By CDF2 It's not like they can't drill some holes in the current seat, put in some snaps and install a cushion there - it's just the idea that nobody seemed to care when these vehicles were in development. When you see that kind of thing happening, you begin to feel like nobody at Disney cares or even thought to question what some designer proposed.
Originally Posted By Manfried That's because no one at Disney, and especially WDI, actually experience the park like real people.
