Originally Posted By bean "MY TIP: IF YOU CAN AFFORD AN ECV, RENT AN ECV." i do not reccomend anyone listen to the above tip posted by the orginal poster. ECV should only be rented if you are actually disabled. renting an ECV just to get around and get in front of lines is wrong. ECV's also create problems and hazards when the parks are busy. There has been several people injured by people that get a lttle to crazy with these vehicles. Instead just have patience, plan appropriately or avoid the parks on those busy days and allow tourist to enjoy them without the extra annual pasholder crowds.
Originally Posted By x Pirate_Princess x what is up? The topic list says bean posted the last message, but I click on it, and dabob2 has the last message. Freaky LP...maybe it's on vacay for the new year
Originally Posted By SuzieQ We once rented a wheelchair at Epcot because my son tore up the bottoms of his feet at the water park the day before. I, too, made him hop out and stand in lines instead of using wheelchair entrances.
Originally Posted By disneyfn Back to the capacity question. Just imagine if these days weren't black out days for most AP's what the park would look like!
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"The city fire marshall does not make the decision to close the gates..."<<< BUT-he certainly CAN! A Fire Marshall if he deems a certain number of people in ANY facility exceeds public safety, has the authority to shut the gates-or clear the facility.
Originally Posted By jonvn I'm not sure he can do that to the outside of areas. That is, it might be the fire marshall (whoever that is) can only clear a building, and not an open space. But the park is not exactly an open space, either....hmmm.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal Yes, the Park an open space. The individual buildings have capacities that could be enforced, I suppose. I am not sure what jurisdiction the Anaheim Fire Marshall has over the Park. I have participated in many, many gate closures and not one has involved anyone other than the Park Duty Manager and the Main Entrance Management. Sometimes the Duty Manager was from Disneyland Security/Health/Fire, but more often that person was from Guest Services (Main Entrance was part of Guest Services). So, I am not really sure if the Fire Marshall even could close down the Park due to capcacity unless it was exceeded in a specific building. What I do know is that the Anaheim Fire Marshall has nothing to do with a normal, expected gate closure.
Originally Posted By mhartman47 FYI the Fire Marshall could order the park closed and even evacuated. I am willing to bet that Disney operations takes step to avoid that becoming a necessity. DL is an enclosed area as it is fenced in, similar to a building or even backyard. As frustrating as it is to be turned away as the park, it is all about safety and really a numbers game.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal Well, there you go. The power is there, but as I said I never even met the Anaheim Fire Marshall in all the times I had to close the gate. Disneyland is very careful about in-Park numbers and definitely takes care to not exceed the maximum. When the Park upgraded the turnstiles to scan every ticket and added an easier way to accurately count Guests coming through the center gates (strollers, etc.) it helped narrow down an accurate in-Park count. Before that it was close but not as accurate as now.
Originally Posted By bobiascastle How have things been the last few days? My best friend is there now & going to the park tomorrow. She is prepared for huge numbers, hopefully it will have died down a little bit.
Originally Posted By 9oldmen >>Back to the capacity question. Just imagine if these days weren't black out days for most AP's what the park would look like!<< It would look exactly the same, as far as crowds, with a higher percentage of the guests being APs. They close the park down after it hits a certain capacity, and in extreme cases, they won't let APs in either. That was already covered, right? The capacity of the park doesn't change if more of the guests are APs, right?
Originally Posted By imadisneygal No, the capacity does not change based on the make-up of passport type of Guests in the Park. However the crowds would most likely be larger on the existing block-out dates where capacity attendance would not be reached. For example, the Saturdays that are currently blocked out would certainly be busier if all AP's were valid on those days. However, capacity would most likely not be reached. As for days when the Park gates will be closed anyway, it wouldn't make a difference in the capacity.
