Originally Posted By gadzuux You KNOW it's not true, but it's the GOP talking point du jour, and you're more than happy to sign on. As to the 'born alive' bill, the facts remain right where they were when we left off - there was already a pre-existing IL state law that covered the matter, and the federal bill was indeed different than the state bill. You can't simply wish these things away in order to slime a candidate.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Sen Obama voted for a bill that would teach HIV prevention to kindergarteners. That's the facts." No, thats a lie, and the actual HB has been provided that proves you wrong. Yet you keep saying that. What's wrong with you?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Sen Obama voted against a bill that would provide care for infants that survived abortions, then misrepresented his position, repeatedly, and then changed his story, repeatedly. That's the facts.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <No, thats a lie, and the actual HB has been provided that proves you wrong. Yet you keep saying that. What's wrong with you?> There's nothing wrong with me. I'm telling the truth. What's wrong with you?
Originally Posted By dshyates "...I'm telling the truth...." No, you are not. It is a flat out LIE. And you have been proved wrong. REPEATEDLY.
Originally Posted By Mr X You're not telling the truth any more than your liar candidate these days, Doug. Downhill you go, right along with him. ***Sen Obama voted against a bill that would provide care for infants that survived abortions, then misrepresented his position, repeatedly, and then changed his story, repeatedly. That's the facts.*** More lies. Someday Douglas, you might actually stumble upon a true "fact", given the vast amount of lies your are either telling or supporting. It's just a matter of statistics. I'll let you know when you get there, buddy.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Typical liberal. "My opinion is the truth and it's been proven so and yours is a lie." Claim it all you want, but it's not so. You can either live with that, or you can try stamping your feet and holding your breath.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Okay douglas - you win - obama wants to teach HIV prevention to five year olds. Ridiculous as that may seem, you believe it, even though there's nothing to substantiate it. You even try and peddle the story, hoping somebody else may believe it too. How's that going?
Originally Posted By dshyates "Claim it all you want, but it's not so. You can either live with that, or you can try stamping your feet and holding your breath." I'm not claiming it, I provided quotes and a link to the actual House Bill that proves you wrong. What part of that don't you get? You can't say that the HB says something that it doesn't when the bill is right in front of you. It make you look like an imbecile.
Originally Posted By mawnck Sigh. Beam me up Scotty. I can't take this foolishness anymore. I'll be back eventually. Hopefully by then you guys can muster enough self control to NOT RESPOND TO SENSELESS TAUNTS.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I provided quotes and a link to the actual House Bill that proves you wrong.> It didn't. It showed that the language I cited was in the bill. Claiming otherwise makes you look like an idiot.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Hopefully by then you guys can muster enough self control to NOT RESPOND TO SENSELESS TAUNTS.> Respond to them? They originate them. As do you.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***obama wants to teach HIV prevention to five year olds. Ridiculous as that may seem, you believe it, even though there's nothing to substantiate it. You even try and peddle the story*** Putting it into such stark perspective really does make the whole lying effort seem as ridiculous as it truly is. Thank you, gadzuux
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Ah - the GOP variant of "I know you are but what am I". Great stuff.> I love how you throw mud first and then pretend that somehow makes you better.
Originally Posted By dshyates "It didn't." Yes it did. Stop ignoring all the "age appropriate" text included in the bill that proves you wrong. Are you even literate?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Stop ignoring all the "age appropriate" text included in the bill that proves you wrong.> I'm not ignoring it; it simply doesn't prove me wrong. I'm sorry if you're not bright enough to understand that.
Originally Posted By dshyates Yes, it does prove you wrong. And I sorry if your not bright enough to understand that.
