Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>They're the ones crying like babies during Wishes.<< So...I scare you, Spirit?!?!?!
Originally Posted By TTA <<Me too. He's 50 bucks. *headdesk*>> This is where they get you. Just buy one of the mystery vinyl's (maybe it'll be the EC one)....open, and.... nope. Continue that cycle until you're waist deep in Vinylmation wrappers, and credit card debt.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<And I'd really not say the Studios are limping around.>> <<Spirit, do you see the new plan from the Studios cutting back on the time from theater to DVD (cutting it back by...4 weeks(?) I believe) will cut enough out of the theater margins to cause backlash?>> Of course ... want to know why? Simple. The Weatherman believes the day is coming when movie theaters and TV will be passe. Hence his desire to dump ABC. He actually is nuts enough to think that everyone will want to watch content on their iPad or even smaller screen. Guess he thinks ESPN is safe because folks will just watch sporting events on their iPhones (just not at ESPN Zones because they aren't meeting his projections ... someone might want to 'splain to him that might have more to do with having $13 burgers while most sports bars will give one for half that or less!) This is the same mentality that said TV would kill movies and videos would kill radio etc. He's all about platforms and tech and forgets both the importance of content and the fact far more folks don't live online (or don't want to) than the fanbois and tech geeks who would die if forced to spend a week with no iPhone, Facebook, Twitter or even just plain email!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> We're no longer friends. Haha<<< Way to miss the sarcasm, again, Hok. "!?!?!?!?!" denotes sarcasm, for future reference.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>This is where they get you. Just buy one of the mystery vinyl's (maybe it'll be the EC one)....open, and.... nope. Continue that cycle until you're waist deep in Vinylmation wrappers, and credit card debt.<< Yep, and TWDC reaps all the profits. These things are NOT worth 10-12 bucks.
Originally Posted By TTA <<He's all about platforms and tech and forgets both the importance of content and the fact far more folks don't live online (or don't want to) than the fanbois and tech geeks who would die if forced to spend a week with no iPhone, Facebook, Twitter or even just plain email!>> Partly Jobs whispering sweet nothings into his, and other board members ears, no?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Oh, I never go on busy days. I'm not that crazy. I go when I know crowds are light and I won't be taking anyone's seat.>> It's still wrong. I can make all sorts of ways in which its less wrong ... you park at WL, have dinner at Whispering Canyon (dropping a load of $$$), come back after going to MK and the DVC pool has two people in it. Who are you really hurting? In reality, no one. But it's a slippery slope. You aren't staying at the hotel, so why do you feel you should be able to use its facilities for free? When others are paying thousands of dollars to do so? It doesn't make you a terrible person. But I just think you're doing what we bitch about TDO doing: namely getting away with something just because you can. It doesn't make it right.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Partly Jobs whispering sweet nothings into his, and other board members ears, no?<<< Yep...All tech, and no story. See: TSMM.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Which, is a great ride, of course, but it lacks that warmth and story a Disney ride should have. It's no E Ticket.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 << But we're getting off-topic and I'd rather argue with you about the fact theme parks barely make any money and are a terrible business to be in. >> <<It's not a hard fact to argue. Disney is the only company out there that has cash-flow positive parks.>> True, but that has more to do with the times and the fact Disney's competitors are spending billions on investment, right now (I'm referring to the 2008-present period basically). If Disney didn't have to fill 25,000 rooms a night, and pay to operate/staff them, then those dollars might be available for other uses.
Originally Posted By TTA <<Which, is a great ride, of course, but it lacks that warmth and story a Disney ride should have. It's no E Ticket>> It's a cleaner, more advanced Space Rangers Spin.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Way to miss the sarcasm, again, Hok. "!?!?!?!?!" denotes sarcasm, for future reference. >> I got it. Hence the "Haha" at the end of the post. <<Which, is a great ride, of course, but it lacks that warmth and story a Disney ride should have. It's no E Ticket.>> And it's not supposed to be an E-ticket.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It's a cleaner, more advanced Space Rangers Spin.<<< Which, actually, has a great story, and is a fun attraction. At least it is tactile. >>>And it's not supposed to be an E-ticket.<<< Tell that to WDI...Who says TLM is an E!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Tell that to WDI...Who says TLM is an E!>> No, PR says it's an E. Big difference. ANyone I've ever talked to from WDI has said TSMM is a D.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Partly Jobs whispering sweet nothings into his, and other board members ears, no?>> Oh yeah. Jobs is definitely having influence ... but Iger has always been a tech geek himself. I think Potter proves immersive story melded with tech still wins in 2010. I find Mansion a helluva lot more repeatable than say TSMM, yet the latter is where Iger sees Disney's future in theme parks. He really should pull an Eisner and visit IOA and realize that many of those folks buying wands and chocolate frogs and Hogwarts tees are the same audience he believes will be impressed by coloring with Princess Aurora after waiting in the sun for 45 minutes.
Originally Posted By TTA <<He really should pull an Eisner and visit IOA and realize that many of those folks buying wands and chocolate frogs and Hogwarts tees are the same audience he believes will be impressed by coloring with Princess Aurora after waiting in the sun for 45 minutes.>> But there's 2 (TWO!!!!!) Dumbos!
Originally Posted By TTA <<Oh yeah. Jobs is definitely having influence ... >> Me thinks Bobby Weatherboy needs to find himself a Frank Wells of sorts.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Me thinks Bobby Weatherboy needs to find himself a Frank Wells of sorts.>> Lasseter could be if he pushed more rather than going with the flow. And I think Jobs fancies himself as a creative genius, even though I'd disagree.
Originally Posted By TTA <<And I think Jobs fancies himself as a creative genius, even though I'd disagree.>> Without a doubt he does. He sees himself changing the way we all live our lives. The verdict is still out for me on his products though. Not enough hands on use. Although, I'm supposed to be getting an upgraded company cell in July (the new IPhone), so we'll see what that has in store.
