Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer ^it really was a joke. truly, i don't think they even planned past 2012 cause, what's the point?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Yet again, an example that WDI's best work appears in coffee table books and resorts thousands of miles from WDW.<<< Or it means they are saving the tech for another ride that needs a massive overhaul. Gee... What am I going on about that'll never get done?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<but u don't even know what they have planned for this place 10-20 years in the future.>> I kind of do. Nothing. As in nothing for WDW is planned that far out anymore. They plan in five year chunks and, even that, is subject to great changes at the whims of execs, or economic conditions. <<i truly believe help is on the way>> It's not. Wish I could be more hopeful, but I am being honest with you. Iger recently said that he intended for investment in P&R (with the exception of the new resort in Shanghai) to drop conciderably after about 2014 when so many things currently in the pipeline are done. So when people talk about second and third phases to F-Land at MK or second phase at DCA or major projects at EPCOT and DAK and E-Tix at DL etc ... well, I just say go to the source. Sure, Iger lies every day of his life. But I don't he's lying here and that you'll see billions of additional investment flowing into the parks (especially WDW, which exists these days almost soley to sell timeshares and resort nights).
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<^it really was a joke. truly, i don't think they even planned past 2012 cause, what's the point?>> I hate when folks I don't know well joke like that! Then, I take them serious and waste my time explaining why the premise is so flawed.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Iger recently said that he intended for investment in P&R (with the exception of the new resort in Shanghai) to drop conciderably after about 2014 when so many things currently in the pipeline are done.<<<. As much as I think that we won't be seeing anything built...I also think The Weatherman has NO IDEA what he's talking about, and we could hopefully see the opposite.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer ^read post 122. Not to say wdw is "forgotten" about, for lack of a better word, but i think the majority of the work we'll be seeing here is refurb. Not that that's a bad thing but for the guys like us who've seen same old same old for 30 years, its eventually going to loose its charm. not to be pessimistic or anything
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Or it means they are saving the tech for another ride that needs a massive overhaul. Gee... What am I going on about that'll never get done?>> Stop hoping for Imagination getting this tech because I think it is HIGHLY unlikely. Much more likely: 2-3 years from now Disney brings back HISTA and calls it something new or back because of guests requests. The fact something could happen doesn't mean it is remotely plausible that it will. And this is one case where I'd bet strongly that it won't.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Stop hoping for Imagination getting this tech because I think it is HIGHLY unlikely. Much more likely: 2-3 years from now Disney brings back HISTA and calls it something new or back because of guests requests.<<< I know. Have not heard a positive word on it in a long time.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<As much as I think that we won't be seeing anything built...I also think The Weatherman has NO IDEA what he's talking about, and we could hopefully see the opposite. >> He knows exactly what he is talking about. He knows exactly what his company's plans are for the forseeable future. When is the last time Disney truly surprised anyone with an announcement for WDW? Seriously? When? Decades ago. Don't say the F-land project because details had been leaking and floating out for a long time ... no one (myself included) took them that seriously because the original project was going to cost upwards of three quarters of a billion dollars, the type of funds Disney doesn't simply invest in parks that are cash cows. ... So what happened? Disney's capacity issues finally forced people above the clueless wonders that run WDW to take action, but they did by slicing over half the project away (with more to come). That isn't a concern at say EPCOT ... You aren't going to have Disney simply spring a wonderful surprise on you unless higher prices, lower quality ... oh and more timeshares are what you consider wonderful surprises.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Posts like that always leave me wounding if WDW will ever improve.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer ^gloomy. I just keep looking to my favorite park EPCOT. you know idc what people say, nemo is the only thing at epcot that bothers me. other than that, i still feel the 1980's ambiance. while not as much as it used to be, its still there
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I didn't know it was *this* bad at WDW. I mean, this sort of thing should be unacceptable: <a href="http://www.wedenterprises.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.wedenterprises.blogspot.com/</a> Why should I spend thousands of dollars to fly to Florida?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper This is why people should stop blindly throwing money at the mouse and try something new. Go on a cruise, go to Europe, go to the beach(if the oil leaves any of them), hell if you really want to go to a theme park in Orlando take a joint Uni/Sea World/Busch trip. Just STOP throwing money to the mouse.
Originally Posted By TTA That's why you can now take a magical cruise over to the Euro beaches with the Mouse, they have you trapped. The pixie dust is free, and plentiful!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<That's why you can now take a magical cruise over to the Euro beaches with the Mouse, they have you trapped. The pixie dust is free, and plentiful! >> See, a Disney cruise would be fine. Going to one of the other Disneylands would be fine. But right now, if you want WDW to improve, going to WDW because it's what you always do isn't the way to go.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Each and every time I take my kids to Disneyworld they have a fabulous time. They don't care if Pooh is 3 minutes or 4 minutes. And, I think a lot of people in here lose sight of this. I don't think mom and dad are the target audience for a Mermaid attraction.
Originally Posted By TTA << I don't think mom and dad are the target audience for a Mermaid attraction.>> Mom and Dad are the EXACT target audience for a Mermaid attraction, and do you know why? The new plush, pins, shirts, vinylmation etc that the little brats will scream to Mommy and Daddy to buy for them. With the attraction looker smaller/cheaper than I first imagined it to be, the ROI on this one could be huge.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Each and every time I take my kids to Disneyworld they have a fabulous time. They don't care if Pooh is 3 minutes or 4 minutes. And, I think a lot of people in here lose sight of this. I don't think mom and dad are the target audience for a Mermaid attraction.>> I have a fantastic time everytime I go too. But that doesn't change the fact that the place has stagnated and lost a lot of what made it "Disney" during the past decand of neglect.
