Miceage Rumor Mill Outsourced to Jim Hill

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    Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85

    >>Well, I think Toontown is safe because best GUESS is that LITTLE IF ANYTHING is going to be done with Star Wars in Anaheim for the foreseeable future. Not in Toontown, not in Simba. Whatever is done short term will more than likely go in Tomorrowland. That is just MY GUESS, but I bet it is just as good as anyone else's guess.<<

    >>I just don't see much demand for a huge project devoted to a single IP at the present time. The hard core fanbase (AP's) don't seem to like IP based stuff anyway. On the other hand, Disneyland park could use a huge amount of renovation. Major portions of the park are presently underutilized (rear of park) or just plain unfortunate looking (Tomorrowland). It has been a really long time since much of anything new was added at DL Park other than the new Fireworks Show and Parade (which I realize is quite significant). I see the money that is being spent used for improved infrastructure and upgrades to existing areas, not creation of a new one. Both Anaheim parks are already close to capacity for much of the year. They don't need to attract new guests, they need to give those they presently have a better experience. This can be done by better utilizing space that presently exists towards the back of the park. Since DCA recently received a huge, costly, and well-received renovation, I don't see a huge amount being done there either for awhile. Goodbye Simba fantasies.

    I don't have inside information on ANYTHING. Just a little common sense and the unemotional evaluation of what really should happen to a park that I don't have a huge emotional investment in.<<

    Well, they did mention that they bought some of the surrounding area to use for backstage stuff, so I'm thinking that SOMETHING is going to happen with the space that thus opens up when they move it.
     
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    Originally Posted By berol

    They suspect that that is the reason. It could be a plan to enlarge/improve Toontown for all I know (which would be great).
     
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    Originally Posted By Yookeroo

    "The hard core fanbase (AP's) don't seem to like IP based stuff anyway."

    What makes you think that?
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    Howls of protest any time another IP project is announced or rumored on the internet. Obviously, this is probably more prevalent with older fans than younger ones. I still see the ideal Anaheim "third gate" as being something similar to the much mourned "Westcot".
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85

    >>They suspect that that is the reason. It could be a plan to enlarge/improve Toontown for all I know (which would be great).<<

    I doubt that there going to be enlarging Toontown.
     
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    Originally Posted By Yookeroo

    "Howls of protest any time another IP project is announced or rumored on the internet."

    I wouldn't take "howls of protest" on DL message boards too seriously. I'd be surprised if a relatively small group in internet crazies were in any way representative of AP's.
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85

    How much of the rumors about Star Wars are fan-based, anyway?
     
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    Originally Posted By berol

    all but Iger's vague quote
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85

    >>all but Iger's vague quote<<

    But if Iger's quotes had been vague, why do the rumors keep pronouncing things that do not sound vague at all?
     
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    Originally Posted By berol

    It gets you/us/their audience to keep going on their sites. Some things they come up with are at least sensical. Some aren't.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

    If I worked at Disney I would purposley leak false info just for my own amusement.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    I hear that they're testing the over-the-shoulder restraints for the loop that they're adding to Star Tours over in the Superstar Limo building...
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <If I worked at Disney I would purposley leak false info just for my own amusement.>

    A certain percentage of cast members do, CC.
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85

    >><If I worked at Disney I would purposley leak false info just for my own amusement.>

    A certain percentage of cast members do, CC.<<

    Except the leaks from the Cast Members may not be false.
     
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    Originally Posted By Yookeroo

    "If I worked at Disney I would purposley leak false info just for my own amusement."

    I'm tempted to get a job at Disney just so I can start false rumors.
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85

    Also, if the rumors about a Star Wars land as replacement for Toontown persisted for a YEAR now as it did (I first discovered such rumors LAST YEAR), I doubt that such information would have been false information deliberately leaked by the company solely to ferret out websites that reported them.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    Anaheim: NO STAR WARS LAND FOR YOU! Got it? Star Wars land (for now) will be in DHS at WDW. It is not even worth discussing.
     
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    Originally Posted By perlster

    D85, you have a problem.
    An internet forum is not the place where you're going to get help.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    >>Except the leaks from the Cast Members may not be false.<<

    They may not be. But then again, they probably aren't true. Do McDonald's employees get the inside scoop on what the company is going to build 5+ years in advance? No, they generally find out about changes when everybody else does. The decision makers are a different group, who typically don't see the need to share that sort of information until it has a meaningful impact on how the existing employees will operate

    Similarly at Disney, the decision makers really don't see a need to tell ride operators what sort of changes will be happening in the mid-term future. Most of the front-line CMs don't last that long, so why would they even need to be told in advance?

    Sure, some of those leaks may be true. Some of them may be true at a certain point in time, but no longer true as plans continue to evolve. But I would guess that a lot of them are just plain wrong, and were invented by someone who was bored at home with nothing better to do (like the supposed plans for Star Wars in the Simba lot)

    >>I doubt that such information would have been false information deliberately leaked by the company solely to ferret out websites that reported them.<<

    Who said anything about deliberately leaking information? It could have just been some random idea that somebody came up with and posted online. It's tough to pin down where a rumor originated, and even more difficult to know if it was intentionally planted or not
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85

    >>>>I doubt that such information would have been false information deliberately leaked by the company solely to ferret out websites that reported them.<<

    Who said anything about deliberately leaking information? It could have just been some random idea that somebody came up with and posted online. It's tough to pin down where a rumor originated, and even more difficult to know if it was intentionally planted or not<<

    This is just me, but it just seems strange that it has been a year since the rumor of Star Wars as Toontown replacement was put up, continuing to remain alive in some way or another, and only now seems like the rumor was planted to weed anything out. I would think that if it was indeed planted, it would have been found out and ended a while ago.

    What I'm about to say is just speculation on my part, coupled with past inclinations. I thought that the original rumor (from late 2013, I believe) of Star Wars as merger with Tomorrowland was invalidated long ago. It still could be on the table, though, or it could not, I don't know. That was only on for, I don't know, about six months. Now the popular rumor is no longer in Tomorrowland but now replacing Toontown, which has been going on for about a year now. Couple this with the reports of them buying up adjacent property to place their backstage stuff over there and thus clear out space for an expansion in the existing footprint, and it just can't be a coincidence that something big is going to happen there.

    Also, it brings up the question of where Innoventions fits into this equation, with both Marvel AND Star Wars stuff allegedly going in there, not to mention the closure of the Tomorrowland bandstand nearby. Granted, all of this may be temporary, but it may not be.

    Anyway, this is all speculation on my part.
     

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