Michael Brown During A Crisis

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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    James Lee Witt did a fine job as FEMA head by all accounts. It's not rocket science. But it's not horse showing, either.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>So the only person qualified to be director of FEMA is the director of FEMA?<<

    Apparently not.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    >>So the only person qualified to be director of FEMA is the director of FEMA?<<


    LOL

    No, Dougie. How about, oh, I don't know, someone who has a background in emergency services?
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneyman55

    Or someone who is actually intelligent enough to know that his e-mails during the crisis could be widely disseminated in the future and act accordingly with professionalism and concern.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <How about, oh, I don't know, someone who has a background in emergency services?>

    How does one get that, if one doesn't have it? It's not like Brown started as Director.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <Or someone who is actually intelligent enough to know that his e-mails during the crisis could be widely disseminated in the future and act accordingly with professionalism and concern.>

    That seems like it would eliminate most candidates for management.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>How does one get that, if one doesn't have it?<<

    How does one become a Supreme Court nominee? I mean, it usually is after years serving as a judge on a lower court and related experience. Usually.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <How does one become a Supreme Court nominee? I mean, it usually is after years serving as a judge on a lower court and related experience.>

    So you're saying Brown should have worked a FEMA for years before he was made Director of FEMA?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <So you're saying Brown should have worked a FEMA for years before he was made Director of FEMA?>

    Even you're not that obtuse, Doug.

    Witt, for example, was head of the Arkansas Office of Emergency Services before being tapped for FEMA. Kind of like how people serve as, say, Governor of a particular state before becoming President.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    I'm saying Brown should never have been Director of FEMA in the first place based on his lack of related experience, but if he had worked at FEMA at a lower rung on the ladder there, it couldn't have hurt.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <I'm saying Brown should never have been Director of FEMA in the first place based on his lack of related experience, but if he had worked at FEMA at a lower rung on the ladder there, it couldn't have hurt.>

    Brown worked at FEMA in a lower position for at least 2 years before becoming director.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    He came in as deputy director, Douglas.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    >>How does one get that, if one doesn't have it? It's not like Brown started as Director.<<

    Take a look at the bio of the current director of FEMA. <a href="http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/paulison.shtm" target="_blank">http://www.fema.gov/about/bios
    /paulison.shtm</a>

    "Before joining FEMA, Mr. Paulison, who has 30 years of fire/rescue services experience, was chief of the Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Department. In that position, he oversaw 1,900 personnel with a $200 million operating budget and a $70 million capital budget. He also oversaw the Dade County Emergency Management office.

    He began his career as a rescue firefighter and rose through the ranks of rescue lieutenant commander, district chief of operations, division chief, assistant chief and then deputy director for administration before becoming the Miami-Dade Fire Chief. He is a certified paramedic and, as fire chief, oversaw the Miami-Dade Urban Search and Rescue Task Force. His emergency management experience includes Hurricane Andrew and the crash of ValuJet Flight 592. He is also past president of the International Association of Fire Chiefs. "
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    I've never tried to maintain that Brown was the most qualified Director FEMA has ever had, nor that he was a good choice. I just don't think he was as bad as some people would like to portray him.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    What's up, Douglas? Your points are usually a lot more solid than this.
     
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    Originally Posted By planodisney

    As they would say DouglasDubh, "Dont confuse them with the facts".

    Those tapes were ridiculouse though.

    My gosh, i dont know how this guy keeps his check book balanced.

    What a total moron!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By planodisney

    36 was in refernce to 31.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Mike Brown started as a lawyer at FEMA in 2000. He then became Deputy Director, and Director in 2003. He did acquit himself well during a variety of Emergencies, but was obviously over his head with something the scope of Katrina. And his people skills are, shall we say, lacking. His public relations instincts also need honing.

    Saying that Bush should be "fired" for naming Brown FEMA head is absurd. I worked for years with a "biggest boss" who routinely hired and promoted disastrous people. He was never fired or demoted. It's just the nature of things.

    (P.S. Most of the time the biggest boss was correct in his hiring and promotion, I should add.)
     
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    Originally Posted By ElKay

    Dougie, Brownie lied on his emergency experience in Oklahoma as well as his legal experience in Colorado.

    His only two qualifications for being FEMA chief was being a Republican and the room mate of the previous FEMA chief.

    Starting off as the legal counsel for a smalish Federal agency (FEMA), then jumping to the #2 post, then it's head is pretty unusual, especially for someone who didn't specialize in emergency response.

    Just the most glaring example of Bush cronyism.
     
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    Originally Posted By planodisney

    Elkay, can you show us your renderings for your evil villains disneyland ride where Bush eats Malefecint and Ursula?

    J/K
     

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