Originally Posted By WorldDisney Wow Passholder, I have to say after going through all these posts finally, you are a wealth of information about all of this! You are like our personal insider reporter or something. Hell, you are probably one of the sources the insider reporter goes to . And even though I agree it wouldve been nice to try and mourn just the passing of a great and influential talent, it was NO WAY that alone was going to last more than a few hours after his death, we ALL knows how this works by now, especially as someone as divisive as MJ has become in the public. So I see nothing wrong with citing all that you cited. And WITH the ridiculous amount of coverage, a new crazy piece of info coming out every few hours about Jacksons life and because of people like Joe Jackson is just making any tabloid reporter job ridiculous easy these days. No one can get away without covering the good with the bad. Personnally, I always considered myself a fan, since elementary school, but like most, it waned a lot, especially the last decade or so. I never really came to a conclusion one way or another about the pedophilia charges. Part of me thought he was probably innocent since it never seem like the man, as much as a freak he was, was ever capable of doing that. The other part of me thought if CONCRETE evidence ever came out, I wouldnt exactly be shocked either, but I always sided on the side of innocence. This moreso when he was acquited in 2005. That said, if he was found guilty, I wouldve believed that as well. This isnt an OJ thing, everything about the case(s) were always too ambigourous to me, so I never made a clear judgement about it, but our law has always been innocent until proven guilty, so that's where I stand now. But again, thanks, its really interesting to hear so much of this stuff and I'm surpried with ALL the news about this, how come this stuff hasnt come out in public yet either? Who needs CNN .
Originally Posted By Anatole69 From an AP article off the wire: >>Downtown hotels were quickly filling. Police, trying to avoid a mob scene, warned those without tickets to stay away because they would not be able to get close to the Staples Center. British Airways reported a surge of bookings as soon as the memorial arrangements were announced. Virgin's trans-Atlantic flights to San Francisco, Las Vegas and Los Angeles were all packed with fans and VIPs, spokesman Paul Charles said. "I think this is America's version of Princess Diana. People want to be in the vicinity. People from the UK and elsewhere want to share their emotions together," Charles said. About 50 theaters across the country, from Los Angeles to Topeka, Kan., to Washington, D.C., were planning to broadcast the memorial live, said Cinedigm Digital Cinema Corp. spokeswoman Suzanne Moore. Admission will be free — first-come, first-served.<< So much for the argument that the memorial service will have no economic benefit to the city or to others. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I'm surpried with ALL the news about this, how come this stuff hasnt come out in public yet either?" Maybe because no one cares about Joe Jackson?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Try to grasp THIS- as far as the funeral goes, the memorial service, the events after his death, Joe Jackson has been THE point man for the family. What happens after they put this pedophile in the ground, then yes, he's eventually going to fade away. "So much for the argument that the memorial service will have no economic benefit to the city or to others. - Anatole" None of which proves crap about putting money back into a city's LAPD budget for costs that are now approaching $5 million. Care to donate? The city's deputy mayor, Jan Perry, went on CNN the other asking for handouts.
Originally Posted By DAR Maybe after today, the news can die down a little. The coverage is getting to be a bit much.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "But again, thanks, its really interesting to hear so much of this stuff and I'm surpried with ALL the news about this, how come this stuff hasnt come out in public yet either? Who needs CNN ." It will, whether in all the eventual books that will be written or some place like TMZ. Forest Lawn did a decent job of staying one step ahead of various factions who kept thinking they knew where the body was. And no one really thought to ask anyone who worked there anything about it, which is why a lot of it didn't get out. They all assumed the body was in Hollywood Hills. It helps to have various locations all over the place and working agreements with other non-Forest Lawn mortuaries. It's rare but not unusual to have to move a body around due to celebrity, but it is rare to have to do it for so long. It got to be like trying to find the pea under the shell. As of this a.m., news reports are saying they STILL haven't finalized plans for the body yet, which is consistent with events so far. Jackson will probably get interred this morning, but only if Forest Lawn get paid first. Three guesses as to why that is, and they first two that don't involve the father are wrong.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ABC is reporting that the tone at the Staples Center is very dignified and everything is well organized. The crowd is peaceful and there have been no mob scenes. Robin Roberts made a special point to note that there were no military jackets or sequined white gloves in the audience. LOL. So much for the speculation that the memorial would be out of control.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice <<putting money back into a city's LAPD budget for costs that are now approaching $5 million. Care to donate?>> Some guy bid $99,999,999.00 on eBay for a memorial ticket and wristband... Maybe the seller will kick in some change. (Had to lighten things up a bit, kids. ;-)
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "So much for the speculation that the memorial would be out of control." Who said that?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Have they said for sure they are burying him at Forest Lawn HH?" No. Forest Lawn won't inter him until they're paid, and news reports this morning now have the body being driven to Staples. Normally, the body's interred right after the private service. Forest Lawn will likely eventually get him, but not until they get shown the money.
Originally Posted By Ursula I would imagine there would have to be a LONG period of time before his gravesite would be ready. I don't know what they have planned, but I can't see MJ having a plot as simple as Frank Sinatra's.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I would imagine there would have to be a LONG period of time before his gravesite would be ready. I don't know what they have planned, but I can't see MJ having a plot as simple as Frank Sinatra's." Funny you should say that. Sinatra's looks simple, but he's 10 feet deep as opposed to the normal six, and his coffin is in a large cement encasement, making it virtually impossible for anyone to get to him.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice Did I read somewhere that Jackson will be interred in the mausoleum? That would be more secure (assuming they have locking steel doors and limited hours for access) than a gravesite, right?
Originally Posted By ecdc I'm watching this on CNN.com and it's nuts. There's people lined up on freeway overpasses to watch the hearse whiz by. They can't see the funeral procession for more than a few seconds.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Who said that?" There was obviously concern. This is supported by the fact that authorities practically begged people without tickets to stay away from the Staples Center.
Originally Posted By Ursula <Funny you should say that. Sinatra's looks simple, but he's 10 feet deep as opposed to the normal six, and his coffin is in a large cement encasement, making it virtually impossible for anyone to get to him. > We still leave him white carnations each time we visit. I had no idea he was so far down with the cement and all. It is nice that he is not behind barriers and that fans really respect his area.
Originally Posted By DAR <<There was obviously concern. This is supported by the fact that authorities practically begged people without tickets to stay away from the Staples Center. >> Plus the authorities just had to deal with the riots after the Lakers won.
Originally Posted By velo we have a family plot at Forest Lawn HH (now full). It's such a peaceful, beautiful place - so much history too. It will be interesting to see if, indeed, he is buried there how they might have to change security etc. - at least for a while.
