Originally Posted By Anatole69 How Michaels body was transported from the Staples center after the memorial: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20090709/en_top_eo/133301" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonlin...o/133301</a> - Anatole
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "How Michaels body was transported from the Staples center after the memorial: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonlin...o/133301" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonlin...o/133301</a> - Anatole" Except the body was never at Staples. It was just the casket.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Fine. So I will now go back to my statement regarding Joe Jackson and MJ's burial at Neverland Ranch, which was, "In any case, since he [Joe] has no control over MJ’s estate, I am having a hard time believing that he has any sway over him being buried at specifically at Neverland Ranch"." Sigh. The estate is entirely different from Jackon's corpse. His estate consists of the assets and liabilities contained in the will. Since there was no mention of what to do with the corpse, no one connected to the estate can decide what to do with it. Hence, Joe Jackson. You are again trying to make sense of some aspects of this. Jackson seems to feel he can impose himself on people and get himn buried at Neverland. He's trying to impose himself all over the place recently. He seems to think he can dictate what happens at Neverland. Why? Because he's Joe Jackson. He doesn't think he needs another reason.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "What was your source on that again? Link please. - Anatole" There is no link and you can give up trying to discredit me. If you've kept up, I have sources in the mortuary business. As it turns out, I actually have three. I am not going to say who they are. One is a relative and two are long time family friends. Through them, because they chose to share, I've known exactly where Jackson has been since his death. The media has gotten it wrong the entire time. Your Yahoo link is a great example of how the press has bought into a planted story to throw them off track.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 Maybe so, but I have more reason to believe something if it is at least sourced or corroborated. Perhaps that yahoo link is true or not, but at least it is something sourced. At this point, I have no real reason to believe anything that cannot at least be substantiated or corroborated.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "His estate consists of the assets and liabilities contained in the will." Would Neverland not be a part of his estate, since he was in fact a stakeholder in the property? Therefore the titleholders are not beholden to Joe Jackson's wishes. That is my point. You seem to keep asserting that Joe Jackson is demanding this and that, and yet it's clear that on some points, specifically MJ's burial at Neverland, key decisions are not within his jurisdiction.
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie >>>Jackson seems to feel he can impose himself on people and get himn buried at Neverland. He's trying to impose himself all over the place recently. He seems to think he can dictate what happens at Neverland. Why? Because he's Joe Jackson. He doesn't think he needs another reason.<<< He can demand that they bury him in my rose garden, it doesn't mean it's going to happen. If the owners of the property say no, than the answer is "no." If MJ had an interest in the property than whoever inherits that interest could have some say, but the remaining owners are also going to have their say. And then there's the city, the county and the state to deal with as well, not to mention neighboring properties which will have their say as well.
Originally Posted By dlkozy Thank you for keeping us informed SPP-I have found it very interesting. I am very glad that I have the parents that I have!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt >>He can demand that they bury him in my rose garden, it doesn't mean it's going to happen. If the owners of the property say no, than the answer is "no."<< Thank you. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder My God- all I've been saying is what the father has been demanding. I'm not saying he could do it. Be that as it may, it has been part of the hold up. There is really no need to split hairs with me over this- I'm just relaying what the guy has been trying to do.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin My impression from what I've read is that MJ felt Neverland was tainted by the search warrants and the justice dept coming and he never went back after the trial.
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie >>>My God- all I've been saying is what the father has been demanding. I'm not saying he could do it. Be that as it may, it has been part of the hold up. There is really no need to split hairs with me over this- I'm just relaying what the guy has been trying to do.<<< I didn't mean to make it sound like I was going after you. I was trying to emhasize the rediculous actions of his father.
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie >>>My impression from what I've read is that MJ felt Neverland was tainted by the search warrants and the justice dept coming and he never went back after the trial.<<< I read that too. That's why he stopped living there. I think his father's actions to try to have him buried there are purely monetary. Why would he wish to be buried there if he wouldn't live there anymore?
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin I also heard the night Larry King was interviewing Jermaine that he (Jermaine) wanted MJ to be buried at Neverland.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I didn't mean to make it sound like I was going after you. I was trying to emhasize the rediculous actions of his father." I appreciate the clarification, but I wasn't referencing you.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I was trying to emhasize the rediculous actions of his father." And so was I.
Originally Posted By dlkozy It sure seems to me that to this day Father Jackson still terrifies the family. I don't read much about his family standing up to him at all.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/09/jackson.burial/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBI...dex.html</a> Well, that wacky Jackson family. The state has said okay to burial at Neverland apparently, but Santa Barbara County hasn't been approached. Jermaine is all for it, but the dad, good ol' Joe, says he's opposed to it, which is the exact opposite of what he's been saying in private after Forest Lawn told him to pound sand.
