Michael Jackson Dies

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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Because I know you're all just on pins and needles anxious for Jackson news as the autopsy report is coming out sooner than later-

    - Still not buried yet. He's not in Berry Gordy's crypt, as that would entail Forest Lawn agreeing to take him, and that's still not happening. He spends his time making the rounds of the same mortuaries he was stashed at before the funeral. He stays in one place for a few days, then off to the next one. He's in a very ordinary box.

    - Yep, he was bald. After the fire on his head, which truly was a shame, his scalp didn't heal very well. He apparently tried hair plugs but had no luck. He had fringe hair and wore wigs.

    - track marks all up and down his arms and other various and sundry places on his body. He was a junkie, a prescription junkie but a junkie.

    - the level of drugs in his system is going to show up to five times the normal amount for at least one of them.

    Now back to debating on whether Obama was ever born.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    >>Now back to debating on whether Obama was ever born.<<

    He was. But on the planet Omicron Persei 8. To Mordra and Klammateil.

    Seriously, still very interesting on Jackson. I was just reading the AP report of the doctor's involvement. Apparently Jackson slept with an IV he needed such a high dose.

    And in one room they found notes scribbled all over, and one said, "children are so sweet and innocent." Can this guy get any weirder or creepier?
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Well, I left out some stuff I found out tonight, but not all of it is verified. And it really only has to do with the condition of the body, or how his body presented at the autopsy. But it's like beating a dead horse, no pun intended. It just makes him more of a sad and tragic figure. What he did to himself was nothing short of masochistic.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    He was a cutter, eh?
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    I've heard reports that he had a prosthetic nose, and that autopsy photos show that he had no actual nose left - just a hole in the middle of his face with pieces of lose cartilage around the edges. The supposition is that when we saw him in public in later years, he was wearing a 'fake' nose that was glued in place.

    Now with anybody else you'd say - naw, that's preposterous. But with Michael Jackson, nothing is "too weird" to be true.
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    I guess I'm asking SPP, when you're talking to your morgue buddies, see if you can ask about the condition of his nose.
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    And oh yeah - it IS kind of distressing that he hasn't been buried yet, and is being shuffled around in a box over a month later.

    Cremate him already. They can dither all they want about what to do with the ashes.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    I asked about it too, and my source will get back to me.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    The family has been pressured to cremate him- that way they can put him on a mantle at home or somewhere- but they won't, flat out. Joe Jackson wants nothing less than a Jackson version of Graceland. He wants to make money off of this still.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    "I asked about it too, and my source will get back to me."

    This is about the nose. I'm inclined to think the nose is still there though in some form, not just a hole, because given everything else I've been told, I would have heard by now.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    So, nothing like this then?

    <a href="http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/807/807_image_12.jpg" target="_blank">http://images.southparkstudios...e_12.jpg</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/07/jermaine.jackson/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBI...dex.html</a>

    Again, file this under "if anybody still cares", but Jermaine Jackson confirms here what I've I've been saying all along, that Michael Jackson isn't buried anywhere yet. What he doesn't say is that the body still makes the rounds of various mortuaries periodically, usually in the back of a flower van or something, staying one or two step ahead of morbid curiosity seekers.

    And yes, the nose is still there.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    Thanks for the update - always very interesting.

    When do you foresee him being buried? Any word on that? How long can this go on? Even spending most of his time in a freezer, he's got to be pretty...pungent.
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    Everytime I hear that Michael Jackson is still dead I fully expect Garret Morris to pop up on my screen and yell me the story
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    "Thanks for the update - always very interesting.

    When do you foresee him being buried? Any word on that? How long can this go on? Even spending most of his time in a freezer, he's got to be pretty...pungent."

    From what I understand, his mother, Katherine, is starting to assert herself, as shown in the custody situation. She's being pressured to simply cremate him and take him home. Put him on the mantle. If she gave the word right now, around 8:30 p.m. on Saturday the 8th, she could have him home in Encino early Sunday if she wished. He's in the same kind of plain particle board box they use when they're going to cremate someone, so he's ready to go. It takes about three to four hours to do a good cremation, then some follow up.

    Forest Lawn has yet to see one red cent from the Jackson family though, and it doesn't seem like they're in any hurry to pay up. This could go on for some time, but if Katherine decides she's had enough, then she could order a cremation to facilitate things. The reason I say cremation over and over is that still, there's no cemetery that will take him. They don't want the inevitable hassle, which is the endless influx of "mourning fans" which could go on for years, nor do they want the possible grave robbers. They've tried the Las Vegas area too, and no luck, no pun intended. Neverland still isn't an option because even though there's been no formal request, Santa Barbara County has made it known they won't allow it.

    As for the condition of the body, yeah, it is what you'd expect. He's been refrigerated, but as one would think, frayed around the edges if you will. There's no need for a wig where he is right now.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    Thanks again. Keep us posted - all very fascinating.

    It's cliched, but true: we all end up in the same place. He's gone from one of the most famous people in the world to decaying tissue in a box. Death can be so odd.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    <a href="http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/15/michael-jackson-body-buried-forest-lawn" target="_blank">http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/15/...est-lawn</a>

    "Michael Jackson has not been buried, multiple family sources tell us. We're told he's above ground at Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills and is being kept in a freezer.

    We're told Katherine has frequently visited the temporary resting place."

    I take it this isn't so, Passholder?

    I wonder if the family is leaking stuff like this to throw the media off the trail.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    I heard as of Tuesday that he had finally been buried in an undisclosed location at Forest Lawn.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    As I've said before, the only time he's been at Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills was for his second embalming, as the first one was a rudimentary one done by the Los Angeles County coroner, who assumed he was going to be buried within the week, as most people are. He's not there above ground in a freezer. If anything, wherever he goes, he's below ground in a refrigerator/mausoleum type set up.

    My last update, if you will, and it isn't as if I get regular, scheduled ones, it's just that I see a certain person on a very regular basis, as recently as last night as a matter of fact, was that he was still making the rounds of different mortuaries, just like he has been ever since he died. I no longer am offered an opportunity to "see him", which would have entailed pulling him out of a drawer, unzipping the bag, and well, there he is. Refrigeration or not, he's not viewable by anyone anymore except those with an official need to do so. And for the record, I never took the opportunity to see him.

    As for his mother visiting him on a regular basis, I've not heard that. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I've not heard that. I would be surprised she is however, as that would entail her going to all the different places I've mentioned since his death. It would likely give away where he is, as all anyone would have to do is follow her.

    As I've said many times, Forest Lawn doesn't want him, won't bury him secretly, won't put him in Berry Gordy's crypt, they just would like to be done with him. Unless something has changed in the last 24 hours (or less, since I even saw my source briefly this afternoon), he's still in cold storage at a certain mortuary, likely due to be moved sometime early next week to the next place that will keep him for a while.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/08/michael-jackson-will-be-buried-later-this-month-at-forest-lawn-his-father-says.html" target="_blank">http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...ays.html</a>

    In this article, Joe Jackson says his son will be buried later this month at Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills. According to my source, this is news to Forest Lawn. While "you never know" and "things could change" and all that, Forest Lawn's attitude towards the Jacksons is still "please come take him out of here".
     

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