Originally Posted By PetesDraggin Maybe the Mickey head will be a 3-D AA. That would add some effect to the new water show.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf Maybe the new name of the park should be "Brave New Disney World". They could also re-theme the Farmers Market to 1984.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf "Maybe the Mickey head will be a 3-D AA". Huh, I hadn't thought about it being 3-D and interactive. That would be interesting. And potentially terrifying.
Originally Posted By tonyanton I like the sun, but the more I think about the Mickey face, the less it bothers me, especially if it will be included in the new show and is the old-style MM design.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher I'd prefer they get rid of the ferris wheel entirely. As long as very visible AnyCity-theme-park stuff like that remains in DCA, the tacky aura of DCA's past will continue to linger over the place. However, the Mickey face will be less generic than the current embossed sun face, so the remodeled ferris wheel, visible for miles around, will be clearly "Disney."
Originally Posted By xrayvision In DCA, the biggest attractions do not feature Disney characters, including GRR, TOT, Soarin...and except for the Mickey icon which goes unnoticed while riding...Screamin. And this fact, along with lessor non character attractions, was the fuel for complaints from the park's early guests...not enough characters and dark rides for a Disney park. This was the same sentiment shared by EPCOT's first guests when Figment, not Mickey and Friends, was marketed as the park's only character ambassador. DLR's market research determined that DCA wanted more Diz characters, dark rides and kiddie rides because that's what the guests said they wanted. Hence, we're getting dark rides, rides for kiddies and more Diz characters than you can throw a stick at (which I don't suggest that you throw sticks at Diz characters as you'll be knocked out by Tigger). Tigger please.
Originally Posted By xrayvision BTW, while I prefer the Sunwheel icon, I don't mind the Mickey icon. And the name "Mousewheel" sounds kinda cute.
Originally Posted By dshyates Disney doesn't even know how to interpret their own research. What does it mean when families a families say "There is not enough that small kids can do?" Does this mean they want tiny carnival spinners, or rides like IASW that kids CAN ride. When someone says "It's not Disney enough." Does this mean they want more Mickey or does the park lack the giddy, magical, nebulous Disney Magic. That I believe characters have nothing to do with. I get it on Main Streeet without a character in sight. I get it looking at Space Mountain, Haunted Mansion, BTMRR, The Grand Californian lobby, Grizzly Peak and Animation lobby. But I don't get it any anywhere else in DCA. Its a feeling. Like love.
Originally Posted By jmuboy MICKEY FACE is a bad idea. They can keep the Sun Face and integrate it into the WOC show somehow. There is still time to prevent this bad idea from going from paper to reality.
Originally Posted By jonvn I totally agree with post 30. It's actually stunning they lack the simple understanding of their own product to such a degree that they can get their own research so badly off. I don't think very many people here, no matter what they say about the original park, wants the placed crammed with cartoons. It's just unpleasant after a while. I'm not going to want to go there at all. Maybe hit and run like now, because once you've seen 3 or 5 or 8 cartoon based rides, it's enough. I won't want to go on any others. It seems they are doing their best to design a park that people will just get tired of very very quickly.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz ""Disney doesn't even know how to interpret their own research. What does it mean when families a families say "There is not enough that small kids can do?" Does this mean they want tiny carnival spinners, or rides like IASW that kids CAN ride. When someone says "It's not Disney enough." Does this mean they want more Mickey or does the park lack the giddy, magical, nebulous Disney Magic. That I believe characters have nothing to do with. I get it on Main Streeet without a character in sight. I get it looking at Space Mountain, Haunted Mansion, BTMRR, The Grand Californian lobby, Grizzly Peak and Animation lobby. But I don't get it any anywhere else in DCA. Its a feeling. Like love."" Very nicely said. DCA is fun enough and has bright spots in it but I am happy to see that they are now working on it. Wish it were less toon oriented BUT I sort of like the look of the old Mickey and I never was fond of the Sun on the Sun wheel so I will be torn about Mickey being on the wheel.
Originally Posted By dshyates The Mickey head thing I do believe is not from the new guys love of characters, but inspired by a segment of the new show. That said, I also belive its the new guys love of characters that has blinded them to the fact that this isn't a good idea. They spending a lot of money to make PP "classier" then they add a GIANT cartoon head for a 2 min. section of a show. The rest of the day it will simply be a godzilla sized Disney Billboard.
Originally Posted By Brown Monkey Wow, with all this feedback I am starting to feel torn over my own opinion of the head. At first, I was all for it, but I can see the opposite side's viewpoints as well. For me though, the face in that form does bring a sense of nostalgia. I remember as a kid watching my early morning cartoons, waffles warmly toasted, buttered, and drizzled with syrup as my breakfast, and the wonderful faces of the Disney characters, randomly surprising you with who would be the star for the current feature! But when I think about it, Paradise Pier kind of does give nostalgia already, and will do that even more so with the Victorian themeing. Very interesting how this will play out.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I don't think very many people here, no matter what they say about the original park, wants the placed crammed with cartoons.<< Here? You mean on Laughing Place? While I'm sure they love us to pieces, I don't think we're their primary audience. I like the sun thing, but could get used to the Mickey head IF it doesn't rotate, cause that would be just silly.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Here? You mean on Laughing Place? While I'm sure they love us to pieces, I don't think we're their primary audience." Here as in LP, but also on other sites. A very common reaction has been not positive. For a lot of the same reasons. While we are not the general public, I am not sure many people will want to be stared down at all down by a cartoon mouse.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Here? You mean on Laughing Place? While I'm sure they love us to pieces, I don't think we're their primary audience." Here as in LP, but also on other sites. A very common reaction has been not positive. For a lot of the same reasons. While we are not the general public, I am not sure many people will want to be stared down at all down by a cartoon mouse.
Originally Posted By Brown Monkey You know, the head might actually make more sense if they are going to be doing more to the actualy ride itself. If they are renaming the ride to the MouseWheel, then maybe it will have more interactive elements or some "cause and effect" type things happening as well??
Originally Posted By PetesDraggin MouseWheel? Is it just me, or is this ride starting to sound like the inside of a hamster cage?
