Originally Posted By YourPalEd I ate a pancake breakfast at the riverbelle terrace just a few weeks ago, for my first time. I thought the pancakes were pasty, but the eggs, ah... they were tasty. It was early morning. I finished the pancakes and eggs, and slid over into the corner under the fake leafs of the tarzan tree. I sipped my coffee, and enjoyed waking up as i watched the stream of people go by. Not crowded yet, or at least a little less crowded being that it was early in the morning. I loved the design for the little coffee refill area. No soda, just coffee, the way it should be for american workers. I wondered why i had never sat there before, but it was wonderful. As i stared at the people passing by, they would talk oblivous to anyone being around, and i heard some of the most personal and funny things i had heard in a while. It reaffirmed my belief that people are just as crazy, if not... in reality... more crazy than me.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I'd like to see some concept art. I'm concerned about the bulk and mass of a two story riverbelle terrace, and the riverbank having a "walled in" feeling.." I can't imagine that it would be any worse than the walled in feeling currently felt in overly cramped Adventureland. It will be a delicate balancing act to get it right to be sure.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd The idea was to have DCA handle all the new crowds and overflow, and then you could keep the antique park. Now, the old stuff is so popular that main street is more like a holding cell, all day long, and DCA is pretty busy too. I think it's time to stop all the tv advertising and just let the crowds die down a bit to a reasonable level. That just seems more intelligent than ripping out antique structures, so that people can stand shoulder to shoulder. If you do that they will have nothing left to see, but people standing shoulder to shoulder. The architecture of the fifties, or anytime pre-computers, is so much more interesting than the new unimaginative structures that the hacks of today design with their CAD programs. At least what they design for big-paying companies.
Originally Posted By ssturgeo I LOVE the Riverbelle Terrace...one of the few places in the park where you can get a balanced meal, whether it be breakfast, lunch or dinner! Park perimeter is a much better suggestion by someone earlier for restaurant additions/expansions, etc. Yes, the area is congested...and, we know that, expect it to be, and just like waiting in long lines if you go in July, part of the experience!! Sharon
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I sure hope Bengal BBQ will be back. I just experienced it for the first time this past July -- great stuff! I wonder if there are any plans for a Fantasmic 2.0 at some point?
Originally Posted By ni_teach The whole area is one big building there is no way to work on one without impacting the other.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<The whole area is one big building there is no way to work on one without impacting the other.>> There is actually some common open space between the FL Facades and AL Shops after the Indy shop towards the Bazaar. So Bengal and Indy are definetly affected.
Originally Posted By danyoung >I think it's time to stop all the tv advertising and just let the crowds die down a bit to a reasonable level.< Now do you really anticipate the Disney company doing anything of the sort? More people means more money! Just cuz more crowds means a worse experience for you & me is no reason to go off and try to keep people away!
Originally Posted By tangaroa >I'd like to see some concept art. I'm >concerned about the bulk and mass of a two >story riverbelle terrace, and the >riverbank having a "walled in" feeling.. It all depends I guess on whether they reclaim the current patio area for indoor seating. The Riverbelle Terrace as it exists now is already a two story building - with office space located on the second level. >Is it possible that the F! viewing is >just to help guests see the show better, >not another dessert buffet thing? No. I'm certain that those high priced dinner packages they will sell are already being counted on to pay for the refurbishment. The good news is though, that because this is a profit center, they will be able to get away with spending more money on the project. If it even comes close to matching the quality of the last restaurant refurb (that being rancho) than everything should be fine.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt “That just seems more intelligent than ripping out antique structures, so that people can stand shoulder to shoulder.†It sounds like one of the reasons this area is being revamped is because the buildings and facilities are in need of replacement. They weren’t built to last forever so inevitably they are going to need a major overhaul. They aren’t the finest things that Disney has ever built so I see no real loss in ripping them out and replacing them. This, of course, assumes that what replaces them will be far better than what is there now. “The architecture of the fifties, or anytime pre-computers, is so much more interesting than the new unimaginative structures that the hacks of today design with their CAD programs.†Oh, I don’t know about that. Have you seen the new stuff at Animal Kingdom: <a href="http://www.laughingplace.com/Lotion-View-144-6.asp" target="_blank">http://www.laughingplace.com/L otion-View-144-6.asp</a> The architecture at Disneyland Paris easily blows DL out of the water, in my opinion.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd It's amazing how the older architecture was made to last, with an occasional layer of paint. I guess the fear that consumerism will slow is what fuels these people to say what they do. Of course it's the destruction of the old for inferior new, that destroys the uniqueness, and the value of an original. It's like your mother shining your coin collection, destroying it's value, but meaning the best of intentions. Intentions or not, the concept is to think before destoying uniqueness and collectibility. I so much prefer the real wood of Disneyland to the present day goo that's used to build things at other Disney parks, don't you?
Originally Posted By hiddencat3 The backstage area behind Bengal BBQ is way gross. The break area/offices upstairs are outdated and are not large enough for the cast members in the area. When you are waiting for your Fantasmic shift you get to hang out next to a large smelly trash compactor. I really do hope that Bengal BBQ gets to stay and with expanded seating areas!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I so much prefer the real wood of Disneyland to the present day goo that's used to build things at other Disney parks, don't you?" Funny, I always associate Disney parks with the artificial and the fake. Not saying that Disney's buildings aren't without craftmanship and artistic merit. I just wouldn't qualify Disneyland as a place that showcases real materials.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I so much prefer the real wood of Disneyland to the present day goo that's used to build things at other Disney parks>> I am not entirely sure which Disney parks you are referring to. They all have beautiful elements (well, maybe not DCA or WDSP.) Even DL has it's share of fake goo... you can't be saying that Sleeping Beauty Castle is ugly, can you?
Originally Posted By mickeynewe I LOVE the Riverbelle Terrace. I better start eating lots of pancakes on my next trip to get my fill..... That is where we eat breakfast every morning of our trip when we go..... That is so sad to hear......
Originally Posted By dzny daze I had breakfast there last week! I had a morning off from a business trip I was on and took in some Mickey Pancakes by the Rivers of America all by my lonesome. It was awesome! I love that place. Hopefully any changes will add to, not take away, the neat atmosphere there.
Originally Posted By jaycub While it will be sad to see some of these changes, I'm on board. What they should do is remove that dead space that Aladdin's Oasis is taking up and place the Bengal Barbecue there. I've noticed some grumblings about Disney making more space for Fantasmic viewing, but they wouldn't do it if there wasn't a demand for it! That area of the park has the worst congestion problems during Fantasmic, so I'm glad to hear the rumors that things will be changing for the better.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd There's always new stuff, always people with new changes. What is harder to find and what is ultimately appreciated most is old stuff which will always be disappearing thanks to the ignorant new people, who just like to force their values on others. I'll take the Mona Lisa, you can have the Britney Spears poster. Both have value, which would you prefer to own, and why? There will be a test later. Hee hee
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^You make it sound like it's impossible for anything new to be of any worth. Comparing Mona Lisa with Britney Spears is rediculous.
Originally Posted By Megara It would be great to have some seating for Fantasmic. It so difficult to stand still in 1 spot for hours. WDW have got it right with their seating for Fantasmic.
