Originally Posted By Hista98 I knew this would happen evntually, it makes sense, but it wil lbe sad to see it go away completley but is hasn't aged well. I wonder why they waited so long. I hope they make philarmagic longer though when I saw it it seemed a little too short
Originally Posted By Hista98 i'm suprised ther eclosing it right before the summer rush. It would make more sense to let it play through summer
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "Well, it just does not really seem worth travelling to Disney parks anymore. Pick one and go to it. It will just all have the walmarted shopping experience and character crap of all the others." Indeed my friend. My partner has yet to see a Disney park, or a theme park of ANY kind. We were looking at going to US Singapore when it opens in '10 but I am adamant his theme park virginity will be lost with a visit to an actual Disney park. Since, IMO a visit from Australia to the US will be futile until 2012 with DCA finishing up(for now), DL is out of the question. Thus we will go to Tokyo first(even though HKDL is closer, that was only considered very late one night in a moment of madness). I will insist for a long time to come that the TDR experience is one that is exceptional. My interactions with the CMs was extremely special and something I will not forget. Let us just hope this outstanding Disney resort does not turn into WDW Asia.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo That's my fear from what I have been hearing over the last couple of years. Be great to hear about your partner's 1st experience.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Well, it's a three week tour of Middle Earth in March(NZ)first. THAT looks to be AMAZING!!!
Originally Posted By Roger55 Think about the people that AREN'T able to travle. What is wrong with Disney bringing their more current and POPULAR attractios to the various parks so that the majority of the visiters who DON'T travel to all the parks can enjoy them? I know that hundreds of thousands of Japanese and other Asian Guests will now be able to enjoy Phillharmagic now that it will be at TDL. And going by the attendace at MMR, the decision to do this change is a no-brainer. This move is going to be a positive one for so many more people than the few disgruntled people fortunate enough to visit multiple Disney parks around the globe.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, but surely they could have opted for something else, something more interesting.
Originally Posted By Roger55 The Japanese that haven't been to HKDL or WDW MK will think it is intersting, amazing and entertaining. It only sounds less interesting to those of us who have been to the other parks. My predictopm is that it will be the next "morning dash" attraction following Monsters Inc.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 I don't mind them adding an old attraction to other parks, as long as they change it enough to make it exciting on its own. When they add a movie based attraction, there is no way to make it different, it has to be a clone and so adds no new value to the parks. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Roger55 Again, you are talking only from the perspective of those who have been to multiple parks or are big enough Disney geeks to know about all of the parks around the world. The vast majority of the people who will see Philharmagic at TDL will absolutely see it as value added to the park.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 Yeah, I know that. I understand Tokyo has an inbuilt customer base of Japanese that may never see another park. I am wondering what the repeatability of Philharmagic is, since most film based attractions have low repeatability... and even less value for a tourist coming from another Disney park that already has the same film. Flight simulators seem to have longer legs, but they aren't quite the same animal, since they stradle the line between being an attraction and a ride. - Anatole
Originally Posted By barboy Installing Philharm is a wise move for OLC. It's super cheap to do(compared to creating an entirely new attraction) and it's full of what Japanese guests want---characters. It's the obvious choice. The move disappoints me big time however since I've seen that thing in two other parks and I don't favor film based attractions.
Originally Posted By Roger55 >>The move disappoints me big time however since I've seen that thing in two other parks and I don't favor film based attractions. << Nicely stated. It is refreshing to see someone state an opinion as their own and not make it seem like they speak for everyone. I also have had my "Phil" of Philharmagic at MK and HKDL, but I'm happy for all the TDR visitors who will get to experience it for the first time. TDL is the only park to have Pooh's Hunny Hunt. I think it would be great if people who can only visit DLR, WDW, DLRP or HKDL also could get a chance to experience it.
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara I find Philharmagic to be just as wonderful every time I see it: WDI outdid themselves and it's one of the magical experiences that epitomizes a Disney park visit. Park visitors love it and it's the best film-based attraction they've done next to Visionarium. I enjoy the Mickey Mouse Review, but it's very very dated (as has been said)--the figures are off-model, and the show never has many people in it. TDL needs more attractions to soak up lots of people because of the crowds and this (plus Monsters) will help that greatly. You didn't miss much in not seeing Meet the World or the Cinderalla Castle Mystery Tour. Meet the World was just offensive to anyone from the West (which is why it was nixed from the Japan pavillion at Epcot AFTER they'd already constructed the building for it), and the Mystery Tour was a very dated walk-through that was enjoyable only in a retro way. It needed an expensive technical upgrade if it was going to continue to be of interest. You really didn't miss much in either case. The best thing about the Castle walk through was the dragon, and you can see a more animated version of him in Disneyland Paris.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris I thought the Horned King and the skeletal minions rising up from the floor were pretty awesome too!
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara The Horned King and "minions" (perfect word) was great, but it scared the hell out of kids, while the rest of the attraction seemed more fitting for the younger set. The whole thing didn't quite work together. It's too bad they didn't have the option of reworking it instead of closing it. I wonder if Lee knows the real reason why it closed. I haven't heard that published yet.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Wasn't the 'official' reason so that they could move the CM's over to the Tower of Terror in TDS to allow the best tours of the library as possible? It seems strange that they would need all those tour guides to just run two small libraries, but I do recall reading that somewhere on these boards...
Originally Posted By The Goddess Mara No, there's a very specific reason why the Cinderella Mystery Tour was closed. Nothing to do with CMs or anything like that.
Originally Posted By SuperDry I think Philharmagic will be a fine addition to TDL. Although it might have been better to use the space for something else, it's a vast improvement over MMR. Man, is that thing dated! And, I think the whole notion of it being bad to repeat attractions from other parks is misplaced. Some people were upset about Soarin' coming to EPCOT, and we've heard several other examples. But is anyone upset that there are several instances of Space Mountain, BTMRR, POTC, HM, or Splash Mountain? Those are quintessential, anchor attractions for a MK (except the franchise one ). If some of the minor attractions get repeated as well, so be it. It's not as if the parks are all identical clones of each other. This notion of "there's no reason for me to travel all over the globe to visit Disney parks if the attractions are going to be repeated" is very misplaced. I would have to think that that is extremely low on the priority list when making decisions. Do you really think that OLC is considering how many additional foreign guests it will get depending on whether it adds a new attraction vs one that's also in other parks? I'd also ask the same question about actual foreign visitor numbers. It's just down in the noise.
