Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP She's not on the cover, one of the Kennedys is. (I just got a quick glimpse and I can't remember if it's RFK or JFK, but she's not on the cover) (Probably RFK, considering the anniversary of his assination is comming up, but I digress.)
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Well that is better - CBS made it sound like that was the cover shot!
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 This isn't "World Events" material. "World Events" would suggest that this episode is somehow important, surprising, or otherwise noteable. This is, sadly, what has become routine "General Entertainment" and "Disney Business." It's Britany and Lindsay. It's Janet and Justin and the SuperBowl and all the disingenuity that followed. It's businesses -- magazines, families, corporations -- scrambling to promote themselves in whatever ways work. Billy Ray Cyrus began his career in entertainment as a stripper; I'm not buying the Cyrus family members' outrage over this. And it's disappointing to me that Disney's stand seems to be one that's calculated on how it will affect business, not on any moral pinnings.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney It shouldn't be on the cover or inside. It's just wrong, I agree with the pedophile statement. Who else would want to see a 15 year old girl in a picture like that?
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains <Billy Ray Cyrus began his career in entertainment as a stripper;> That I didn't know - no wonder he didn't put a stop to this when it was suggested her clothes come off! <I'm not buying the Cyrus family members' outrage over this> Knowing now that he was a stripper - I would agree - however I do believe Miley is embarrassed by the pictures - she is 15 and at that age even if you are Hannah Montana - you do have some modesty! I think she trusted the wrong people to make the right decision for her - and those people her parents didn't act in the best interest of their child! Hmmm smells like Dina and Lynne school of parenting!
Originally Posted By dshyates <Billy Ray Cyrus began his career in entertainment as a stripper;> I can't be positive, but I don't believe that is true. He grew up at a small town in KY not far from where I went to college and he used to play all the time at a bar called the Ragtime in Ceredo-Kanova, West Virginia. Before that he went to Georgetown College, which is a Baptist college, on a baseball scholarship. He did spend some time shopping his demo around LA, and he did look mighty fine in them jeans, but I don't believe he spent time as a stripper.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<however I do believe Miley is embarrassed by the pictures - she is 15 and at that age even if you are Hannah Montana - you do have some modesty!>> Unless she really is a tart and the entire "wholesome" image is just good old Disney marketing at its best. I imagine that her family is well aware that young Miley can't play Hanna Montana forever and are probably trying to transition her into the next phase of her very profitable career. This might have something to do with the risque photos.
Originally Posted By dshyates What I see in the Vanity Fair pics and the online pics is a beautiful young lady who is no longer a child. I don't see them as risque at all. I see pictures of a beautiful young lady. To bill them as topless is disingenious at best. And this is a far cry from Brittney's barely there body stocking, Janets "wardrobe malfunction", or Brittney and Madonna's liplock on the VMAs. I can't believe they are comparing her to Brittney because whe is showing a bra strap. That right there proves she's no Brittney. She has a bra on. Probably panties too.
Originally Posted By Kira I find this entire "controversy" a LAUGH and I believe it is all for publicity. Hang with me here as I voice my opinion on this "issue". I feel that the professional photo done by Annie is LESS provocative than the "personal" photos of Miley's that have found their way to the internet. The ones that could basically be considered child porn since she was younger in the "personal" photos than she is in the Vanity Fair photo. If you haven't seen the photos, there are SEVERAL out there gracing the pages of celebrity gossip sites. Photos of Miley posing and photographing herself in provocative poses with puckered lips in her underwear and making several inappropriate finger gestures. Disney has yet to release ANY statement about those "personal" photos, but Vanity fair "manipulates" Miley for their magazine, and Disney gets ALL over it releasing a statement within hours. It's all quite ridiculous and honestly I have lost my respect for Miley as a performer and role model. I used to think she was a great role model for kids, but based on the recent photos, public and private, proves to me that she is NOT the "good girl" persona that she is force feeding our kids through the disney channel. The fact that she is making huge money off that persona and feeding her fans lies makes me sick -_- *end rant*
Originally Posted By dshyates This has been an issue with the Disney girls since Annette's cup sized surpassed her mouse ears. Miley's growing up. And I haven't seen anything really inappropriate yet. She is expressing a need for mature guidance, but what 15 year old doesn't. As of yet, I am not worried about her. Do I believe that she will go up, try alcohol, and experiment with sex? Yes. Is she even close to out of control? No.
Originally Posted By ecdc But is it really any celebrity's job to be a role model? Shouldn't parents be teaching their children that Hannah Montana is just a character and that the girl playing her could be...well...anybody? In our celebrity culture, we talk about these people as if we know them. When Heath Ledger died I don't know how many times I heard "He seemed so nice." He seemed nice from what? His picture in the paper? When he had a video camera on him and he knew he was being taped? Heath Ledger might've been the nicest guy on the planet. He also might have been a complete jerk. None of us knows because we hadn't met him. Miley Cyrus might be a prim and proper girl. She might be a skank. None of us knows. She is a teenager, though. And teenager's should probably be allowed to do stupid things. They should also have parents who teach them about the Internet age. You certainly don't have to be a celebrity to end up with "risque" (or downright naked) photos of you online. Kids use myspace, picture messaging, email, etc., and assume it's like they're talking face to face and showing someone a photograph. These things can be shown to *anyone*. Being a celebrity only makes it 20 times harder.
Originally Posted By Kira <<But is it really any celebrity's job to be a role model? Shouldn't parents be teaching their children that Hannah Montana is just a character and that the girl playing her could be...well...anybody?>> It may not be in their job title, but it comes with the territory. Especially these days with how many celebrity lives makes BREAKING NEWS in our media and this so called "news" is everywhere we go. It's inescapable. We as human beings are always striving for "perfection", and when there is someone portraying our own personal vision of who or what we believe is that "perfection" we latch onto that, and thus role models are born, whether we like it or not. Yes, parents should be teaching their children that Hannah Montana is a character, but let's be honest here, there are a great deal of parents that DON'T take the time to explain these things to their kids. They let their kids live in the make believe world of Hannah Montana because it keeps them occupied for a few hours out of the day. We can always hope that the parents are doing what we THINK they "should be" doing, but we can't forget that many parents DON'T do what they "should be" doing when it comes to parenting their child. Which leads us to the case of Miley Cyrus and her risque photos that she has taken over the past few years. Where are her parents? "Shouldn't" they be teaching her how to present herself as a decent young lady when she has MILLIONS of fans under the age of 10 who strive to follow in her footsteps? Why aren't they reprimanding her for all of those racy photos she has taken of herself when she was 13, 14, & 15 years old? Miley does an interview with Barbra Walters and preaches about how she is a good christian girl, great role model and swears that she won't end up like Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan. Then she goes home to take some more provocative photos and leaks them on the internet. I think this is a case of Miley needing to learn how to practice what she preaches and Disney trying to save face to protect their money making franchise. Miley will continue to go unpunished for her actions as long as Disney can release statements to "apologize" to her fans for a MAJOR lapse in judgement. If Disney is around to save her career and bank account with a statement everytime she messes up it's no wonder that she doesn't learn from her mistakes. But then again, it's also a major case of her parents not doing what they "should" be doing.
Originally Posted By Kira also edec... I hope that you don't take offense to my response, I realize it might sound harsh but I did not intend for it to be that way. =) I think you had some very valid questions and statements that really lead me to analyze and think about the situation in a way I wouldn't have before.
Originally Posted By dshyates "We can always hope that the parents are doing what we THINK they "should be" doing, but we can't forget that many parents DON'T do what they "should be" doing when it comes to parenting their child. Which leads us to the case of Miley Cyrus" But Kira, its not this 15 year olds girls responsibility to raise yours or anyone elses kids.
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Originally Posted By mele I seem to have seen a lot of sexy Miley photos lately. I didn't really think the ones with her girlfriend were bad but I've seen at least 5 or 6 where she's got her top pulled up, exposing her stomach and trying to look super sexy. And all at the same time she's talking about the "Devil attacking" when the press talks about these photos, talking about loving Jesus and remaining a virgin till marriage. And now the sexy magazine cover. This is all so Britney, 12 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if this was all contrived but it makes me sick. Cos letting Britney sell her sexuality in her early teens turned out SO well, right? My 9 year old daughter is OBSESSED with Miley/Hannah but I'm really starting to have my doubts about letting her continue. I don't want my daughter to emulate her and the whole religion thing Miley is pulling irritates me also.
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Originally Posted By mele Oops, hit enter too soon. Disney is totally promoting Hannah/Miley as a role model. They have Hannah make-overs at Clubb Libby Lu and tons of clothes with her image all over them. At the concert tour last year, a ton of girls in the audience were wearing blonde Hannah wigs. There is a wii game where you literally are Hannah Montana. It's "role model" at it's most basic. I've thought that Miley's parents/managers have done a good job of transitioning her from just Hannah to Miley but that is also a catch-22 for them...they can't say "dress up like Hannah, watch the first part of her concert as Hannah, second part as Miley, but don't be like Miley".
Originally Posted By dshyates "Disney is totally promoting Hannah/Miley as a role model." No. They are promoting her as a product in their stable. I mean, seriously, "They have Hannah make-overs at Clubb Libby Lu and tons of clothes with her image all over them". She is a product to hock. That all. They can try and shoehorn her into that slappy happy Disney mold, but real people, particularly late teenagers, don't live Disney wholesome lives.
