Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I like the Grizzly playground. It's one of those little detailed areas that make Disney parks special to me without being bombarded with characters and such. As an adult without kids it was entertaining and enjoyable as an escape from the craziness of the more crowded areas of the resort. If there was an area of the park that could easily be on the chopping block I'd say it would be A Bug's Land. I really see no need for it.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Everybody got their cranky pants on tonight??? >>A space where parents have to watch their children having fun is almost the antithesis of what Walt Disney was trying to do with Disneyland.<< Not really. Walt personally designed Tom Sawyer Island to be pretty much just that. >>Can anyone explain to me exactly what the Country Bear Jamboree was anyway?<< The CBJ was a show originally designed for the Mineral King Resort, a project Walt Disney took a close personal interest in just before he died. (I've never cared for the original show-- but my son loves it.) >> But they claim that Carsland will be great, despite the poor planning and poorly chosen name.<< As more details have come to light, Carsland looks better and better. There was a specific footprint available, and this addition looks better than anything that I've seen south of the esplanade. >>If there was an area of the park that could easily be on the chopping block I'd say it would be A Bug's Land. I really see no need for it.<< This addition addressed one of the most criticized aspects of DCA-- that there was nothing for families with small children. I don't have any little kids these days, so it's not my favorite corner of the park. But I do understand its appeal.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 I think there are enough rides for small children in the parks... And it doesn't really matter, they'll grow up anyway
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "This addition addressed one of the most criticized aspects of DCA-- that there was nothing for families with small children. I don't have any little kids these days, so it's not my favorite corner of the park. But I do understand its appeal." That's true, but since then additional attractions for or suitable for small children have been added. Most notably Turtle Talk, Monsters Inc, and Playhouse Disney. There will also be features in Carsland for small children and the Little Mermaid attraction appears to have appeal for a broad range of ages. Ultimately I think A Bugs Land could be devoted to something a little more substantial.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***This addition addressed one of the most criticized aspects of DCA-- that there was nothing for families with small children*** There is no question that such an aspect needs to be addressed... The issue is, they could have done SO...MUCH...BETTER with it! One could argue that Fantasyland is the ultimate "for the kids" area, that can also appeal to all. They recreated something almost as nice in Tokyo (aside from the Fantasyland already in existence, including the incredible Pooh attraction that really DOES work for every single member of the family and is simply amazing), over at DisneySea with Mermaid Lagoon. So, certainly it IS important to "address the issue", the question is, do they address it well or do they address it by throwing in some cheap carnival rides and call it a day? With DCA, we well know the answer to that!
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<Not really. Walt personally designed Tom Sawyer Island to be pretty much just that.>> I disagree - Tom Sawyer Island, when opened, had appeal for the whole family. The caves and bridges and such could be enjoyed by everyone at the same time. I was not aware that this was the case with the Grizzly playground - though I must admit I could be wrong. I've never actually wandered in there - I assumed it was just for kids. <<This addition addressed one of the most criticized aspects of DCA-- that there was nothing for families with small children.>> Designing attractions for small children is actually a trend that I wish Disney would stop following. In small parks like Disneyland and DCA, where every plot of land is pretty precious, I hate seeing space wasted on attractions that only appeal to the under 5 set. While I understand parents wanting something for their small child, those same kids will soon be grown, and then will never have any interest in riding things like Heimlich's train again. But think of the appeal of an attraction like Small World - you can take a small child on that ride, and they can still enjoy it as an adult. Lasting appeal is what Disney should be designing - not shows and attractions that only small kids will like. The Little Mermaid ride is a step back in the right direction - and one trend I hope they continue.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I disagree - Tom Sawyer Island, when opened, had appeal for the whole family. The caves and bridges and such could be enjoyed by everyone at the same time. I was not aware that this was the case with the Grizzly playground - though I must admit I could be wrong. I've never actually wandered in there - I assumed it was just for kids.<< As an adult, I find the Redwook Creek Trail to be even more interesting than TSI. And it was definately a highpoint of the visit for my kids. It is one of the better areas of DCA, and I would be very sad to see it go. Paradise Pier on the other hand, I would not.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>But think of the appeal of an attraction like Small World - you can take a small child on that ride, and they can still enjoy it as an adult. Lasting appeal is what Disney should be designing - not shows and attractions that only small kids will like. The Little Mermaid ride is a step back in the right direction - and one trend I hope they continue.<<< I agree with the first part of this, build attractions for the whole family. However, I disagree with the second part - Disney stop the toonfestation.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<I disagree with the second part - Disney stop the toonfestation.>> Oh, you know I'm against all the toons - I'm was just saying that building a ride that the whole family can actually enjoy together is a "step in the right direction". I'd rather it was themed to something else, but at least it's an omnimover system.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<As an adult, I find the Redwook Creek Trail to be even more interesting than TSI.>> I guess I'll actually have to walk in there next time I'm in DCA and see it for myself!
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<As an adult, I find the Redwook Creek Trail to be even more interesting than TSI.>> Agreed.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "But think of the appeal of an attraction like Small World - you can take a small child on that ride, and they can still enjoy it as an adult." Huh? Small World doesn't have a lot of appeal for adults. A bunch dolls singing an annoying song? Count me in with those who like the Redwood Creek Trail.
Originally Posted By danyoung Umm, I'm an adult, and I like Small World. It's not really a fav, but it's a classic that I'll hit at least once each trip.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Oh wow ... didn't know Yookeroo was speaking for the entire adult population where's Small World was concerned. Regarding Flicks Fun Faire ... I have a sad feeling they will never address the tiny rides they built, that are only adequate for children. Here, they decided to throw the book away .. when they designed other "kiddie" type rides .. but large enough to fit adults in, comfortably (Casey Jr, StoryBook, Tea Cups, the dark rides, King Arther's Carousel.)
Originally Posted By oc_dean If it's good enough for Shopping Malls, it's good enough for DCA: <a href="http://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/2/6/1/7/4/ar122659748247162.JPG" target="_blank">http://activerain.com/image_st...7162.JPG</a>
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL While not my favorite place in DCA, I have ridden in all of Flicks rides...yes, rides, NOT attractions. So, if adults are so inclined, they can ride everything. The statements that adults can't ride them is untrue. Now, the question, "Do we actually WANT to ride them" is a whole different monster. LOL AND, there are still many other aspects of that park that need to be addressed and corrected before killing off Flicks. (But, It would look really, really cool to build the HKDL Grizzly Coaster in the Flicks area across from GRR and have Disney's first twin mountain range) As for the Redwood Creek Challenge Trail, I like that area as well, and would hate to see it dismantled. I would rather they plus it. Something along the line of the new area Dollywood added last year which is essentially a huge, tethered ropes course for older kids and adults, would be awesome! This type of addition would move the Trail from a playground to a full fledged attraction. Also, with the close proximity to the Grand CA, the noise factor would be no worse than what we have there now as it would close at dusk.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Hey TMICHAEL, can you tell me how compact it was for you in Flicks Fliers, Heimlich's, Tuck and Roll's Drive-'Em Buggies, and Francis' Ladybug Boogie? In the two total times I've been in there ... each attraction seemed so compact, more so than any other ride, Disney has ever built, It sent a clear message to me, 'this is strictly for kids'. By the way .... rides, shows, exhibits, ... they can all fall under one word: Attraction.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 @TMICHAEL YES! I've heard about that! They have water jets that spray people as they climb across the walls! It's really interactive and pretty sophisticated...Im pretty sure you get strapped into a harness and tied to a rope before you start the course...
