Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I'm not dissing either Mission Space or Haunted mansion. I like them both. What I am doing is just commenting on the fact that there are some who disapprove of MS "Because the physical G-force stresses do not permit all family members to ride together -- and that's what Walt wanted." And yet, HM does the same thing, but in a different way. Not all family members ride together. Sure, all adults and children can PHYSICALLY ride on HM, but there are VISUAL and CEREBRAL affects that do distress some (usually children). --------------------- As far as "Any adult who rides HM and finds it all that scarey must need help" -- I have observed adult guests who speak no English ride on HM. When they come out some are wide-eyed and quite shocked. Mostly, I'm sure, because they didn't know what they were getting into when going into HM. Can you imagine going on a Disney attraction, mentally expecting a "Small World" experience, and getting HM instead?
Originally Posted By Kylesmom I don't disagree that many teens prefer MK to IOA and apreciate the Disney experience. But I don't think there is anything wrong with rides like M:S, they improve the Disney experience for the entire family, especially teens. And speaking for myself, I don't think I'd go to any Disney park as often as I do if it weren't for the coaster and thrill rides. If they only offered dark rides and shows I think I'd be happy to go to a Disney park once every 5 years or so. Viva la Variety!
Originally Posted By basas <<I don't disagree that many teens prefer MK to IOA and apreciate the Disney experience. But I don't think there is anything wrong with rides like M:S, they improve the Disney experience for the entire family, especially teens. And speaking for myself, I don't think I'd go to any Disney park as often as I do if it weren't for the coaster and thrill rides.>> I think part of the problem with MS is that it is a stand-alone attraction. There is Mission:Space, and a playground-type thing for people to do while they wait. This thrill attraction replaced an attraction that everyone could enjoy together...there was no thrill aspect. Now, i like MS too, but i think the 'majority' of people on here would have been much happier had MS been part of a multi-attraction pavilion that included things to do for other members of the family. (aka (in it's day) WoL...thrill ride, but lots of other things to do for other family members).
Originally Posted By Kylesmom Point taken basas, I admit if I were going to WDW with my "spin" sick dad and closterphobic mom, we'd have to completely split up while Kyle and I enjoyed M:S. A full Space Pavillion with shows and other attractions would have been a better fit for the area.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <as someone who use to work Mansion all the time, you all forgot one other small fact..alot of the parents love to scare their own Children while riding, sad fact, but wittnesed many times... me two cents ya know! William < yep, the same brain dead parents who complain later that evening when little Johnny can;t fall asleep
Originally Posted By Kimrue ^ See that's the thing, if you ask you child if they want to go onto the ride and they say NO, they really don't want to! STAY OFF, I can't tell you how many times I've had the ride ruined because some kid was screaming with sheer terror and the parents were FORCING the issue! Same stupid parents that turn off frosty force the kids on HM....stay consistent for crying out loud!
Originally Posted By brotherdave Exactly, Kimrue! NEVER force your child on any ride that they may be afraid to ride, especially very young children! Now, explaining to them what they might see or experience might be able to let them make up their own minds. My son at age 3 LOVED the Haunted Mansion without any coaxing, but my 10 year old niece was totally petrified and wouldn't set foot in it. After explaining to her what was inside and after the younger children with us who rode it and loved it convinced her, she finally made her own choice to ride it. She ended up liking it overall, though she did hide her eyes here and there. But it MUST be the CHILD'S choice of whether they want to ride something or not. Every child reacts differently. Forcing them to ride will only strengthen their fear and may lead to resentment towards the parent who forces them. Besides, it's just downright cruel for parents or adults to 'force' their child onto a ride they fear. Let the child decide for themselves in the end.
Originally Posted By Crazy4WDW My friend and I always see some parent with a small child waiting to get on Stich at MK. Of course, these people always end up behind us. The kid ends up screaming his head off for the entire thing. I just want to smack these parents upside their head and say "What were you thinking??!!!"
Originally Posted By basas <<My friend and I always see some parent with a small child waiting to get on Stich at MK. Of course, these people always end up behind us. The kid ends up screaming his head off for the entire thing. I just want to smack these parents upside their head and say "What were you thinking??!!!">> Well, really...when you see the sign "Stitch's Great Escape", there is no warning that the attraction terrifies many young kids. I don’t think a lot of parents really know what they’re getting into when they take the kids on the ride.
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp A parent has to know their child, and plan accordingly. Our youngest, when he was 3, went on everything without fear - Haunted Mansion, the dark rides, Space Mountain. But he was afraid of Chip and Dale, and we have the pictures to prove it. So please, don't blame the attraction, but the responsibility where it belongs, with the parents.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> don't blame the attraction, but the responsibility where it belongs, with the parents. << Agreed. The attraction posts it's limits on the outside. It shouldn't be a negative surprise to people when they enter. Push your kids to try new things, yes. But don't push your kids to the point of terror to do something they are afraid of. >> afraid of Chip and Dale << Too funny -- but also true. I've seen kids be afraid of the oddest things. I myself was scared to death of the puppets in Kukla, Fran and Ollie. I got over it.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I myself was scared to death of the puppets in Kukla, Fran and Ollie. I got over it. < When you look back now - they were pretty creepy !
Originally Posted By Kylesmom Minnie Mouse scared the crud out of my other wise fearless boy when he was a toddler.
Originally Posted By pitapan16 It was the Big Bad Wolf for my brother, lol. But I can understand all of your guys arguments for and against thrill rides with physical forces. I would say that most Disney "thrills" are very mild, but that my opinion. And your talking to a guy who's used going on everything. I have no limitations on rides therefor I personally experience no problems with riding any attraction. And I too appreciate the variety at Disney's parks as some others mentioned. I have grown to enjoy all types of rides, shows, and attractions...It really has'nt been to hard.
Originally Posted By melissa_m I actually thought that WDW had a really great blend of rides. Sure, our family had to split up a time or two, but that was fine with us. We have different opinions on rides. My oldest son, age 9, rode Mission Space with his dad and loved it. He begged me to ride it and I was just too chicken. Even my five year old rode everything that he was big enough to. But the difference is that we draw the line with some rides. For example, our very first day in the parks was spent at AK. I didn't let my 5 year old ride Dinosaur because I was afraid it would scare him and ruin it for any other dark, loud ride. In retrospect, I found that he would have been fine, but why chance it? There were terrified kids on that ride. We learned our lesson when our first son was 3..we were visiting a wax museum in San Antonio and it scared the living daylights out of him. For about the next six months, he was scared of dark places. I vowed after that experience never to force my child to go into a place they didn't feel comfortable. Considering Disney offers the parent swap thing, parents don't have to miss out on rides because of the kids. If parents do any kind of research at all, they will find warnings about rides. Most books, websites, etc. will tell you that just because your child is tall enough to ride, doesn't mean it's appropiate for your child, depending on their personality and ride experiences.
Originally Posted By Socrates This topic reminds me of a story -- I was walking thru Adventureland at Disneyland one day when I noticed a little boy about 4 following a character, trying to get his attention. The chatacter finally turned to face him... and it was Capt. Hook. That kid let out a yell that could be heard throughout Adventureland. Capt. Hook simply shuttered and kept walking. Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By Ash Is Crazy 4 WDW Okay I have to admit, I'm 18 years old and Haunted Mansion still scares me to death. I know its fake, but I've never been totally thrilled with it. In the room, I never look up because I know whats coming and its just scary! LOL! As for Mission Space,i dont think its family oriented to a point. You can go on the mission with your family yes, but the fact that its a thrill ride, its fast, and just crazy...that keeps families from going together.. I still give MS two thumbs WAY UP! LOL!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Although I normally find Haunted Mansion to be more amusing than anything else; I've been really rather freaked out when riding it during the old "E Nights". There was something about riding it late at night with far fewer people in the park that gave it an impact far beyond what it normally had. I always loved riding it during E-Nights because of that. I was also always very happy when the ride ended.
