Originally Posted By leobloom >> And the old China CircleVision was also shown in DL. << Never knew that. When was that?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros According to Wikipedia, Wonders of China ran from 1984-96. For at least a portion of that time, I think it split the theater with American Journeys (I think that's the show...one of the US ones). One would run in the mornings, and the other ran in the afternoon. I never experienced the attraction at DL, even though I visited several times before they removed it (I know, shame on me), so I don't have any first-hand information, but I've read it in several different places.
Originally Posted By mstaft Rode M:S twice. First the original version ,then the newer milder one. Neither was great fun or innovative. Staring at a screen with mediocre animation and getting motion sickness is not my idea of a great attraction. The original Flight to the Moon and Mission to Mars were more successful in accomplishing the task at hand and being convincing.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Sorry about overlooking the films... I don't really consider films attractions, though I really like Impressions de France in the World Showcase. Always thought HISTA was over-rated. I never even bothered viewing it the last half dozen years it was shown. I agree with Disney Pete's definition of success, and Mission Space is the Epcot attraction I repeat most.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Mission to Mars convincing? That was the LAMEST WDW attraction I ever experienced. As bad as Stitch is, it beats Mission to Mars.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I loved Mission to MArs. Then again last time I rode it I was 11 years old....we then moved to the UK. I love Alien Encounter more though (my wife hated it). Stitch is ok, my love of AA's and my like of the character makes it bareable. It is still better than a large number of attractions in the MK IMHO. Jerry, an open question for you though. If you do not consider the films attractions, does that also extend to Soarin' too?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>>I just realized that Magic Journeys was original in MK before moving to Epcot when the Imagination Pavilion opened, and it also spent some time in DL. When Captain EO was created for DL, it also came to Epcot (though it's run in DL was several years longer before HISTA). Now, both parks have EO again.<<< Correction: Magic Journeys was originally presented at EPCOT Center's Journey Into Imagination in late 1982 when the pavillion opened. When it was replaced with another film.. then it had a run at the Magic Kingdom. For the record.. NO attraction at EPCOT Center before "Captain EO" was ever presented at another Disney park.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Dave, no to me Soarin' is much more than just a film. The ride apparatus, the feeling of actually flying though through the motion of same, combined with the wind and other effects, makes it much more than just another film attraction. Is it worth the two-hour waits? In my opinion no, which is why I ride Mission Space much more often. As far as thrills go, nothing beats Mission Space. As far as FUN goes, nothing beats Soarin'. It just isn't worth the extended wait more than once a trip (in my opinion).
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Crum... typos again... I've almost stopped apologizing for them on LP. They are almost inevitable.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Lol, they are, aren't they. I have to admit though, I consider the 360 cinemas to be attractions. In fact Timekeeper used to be one of my very favorites in the MK.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>The original Flight to the Moon and Mission to Mars were more successful in accomplishing the task at hand and being convincing.<<< This is another strong clue to what the situation actually is....it is perception. What we saw, when we saw it, what degree of comparison we had at the time. I remember seeing Mission to Mars. Previous to that I had never seen anything like it. It was entertaining, funny and to my obvious sheltered mind, a unique experience. Convincing? I can truthfully say that my mind never wandered into the area of...man, this seems real. It was just entertaining. When the seats dropped down at takeoff, never once did I think...G-force. What I thought was...clever dropping those seats so it feels like your taking off. Still enjoyed it though. Since I have never actually had a ride in a space shuttle, I have no way of knowing how realistic it is, but the way it is set up will definitely let your mind float into another dimension. (Sorry, Mr. Sterling) I almost never react in any manner to a ride. My first words at the end of the ride was a loud exclamation of "Awesome". Surprised my self, due to the fact that I wear my curmudgeoness as a badge of honor. OK, maybe I am lucky that I am not susceptible to wimpy fake problems like motion sickness. (Just kidding, don't shoot.) I think, no, I know, this will be the closest I ever come to space travel and even though it is simulator based, it is very real in that sense. I often wonder, what are people expecting. When you walked into that building were you expecting to actually be shot out through the roof on an actual rocket? What does it take to make something "real" enough for everyone? I remember complaints about TT as well. It isn't real enough, it isn't thrilling enough...it's boring. All the while I'm shaking my head and thinking...you just spent the last few minutes riding in a car that climbed, hills, went through stopping maneuvers, got up to over 60 miles an hour. During any of that time did you happen to notice that NO ONE WAS DRIVING? Did you even take a minute to realize that a computer was doing everything without human interruption. Did you happen to notice the technology used to take your sorry butt around a test track safely and without so much as having a hand out for a tip? The cars themselves are the attraction. Enough rambling...in my mind Mission Space is a yet to be completely discovered success. Engineering, themeing and guest participation. Did you know that when you reach up and push one of the buttons, upon request, it will give you the illusion that you actually did do something to effect the ride? Not impressed? Would it have been impressive if when you pushed it, the ride vehicle shot out through the side of the building. Wow, talk about power!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >> The larger failure is when Disney ceases to try something creative, innovative and original.<< Well, that's happened....
Originally Posted By CDF1 Couple of opinions: 1. Soarin' a movie? No - its an attraction that simulates hang gliding and the movie simply supplies the visual element that is necessary 2. Mission:Space question? Would MS be any better if there were some variable outcomes based upon actual input from the participants? Isn't variable outsomes during rides something that Disney has pioneered recently - perhaps it will be their new signature technology even.
Originally Posted By dshyates What I would love to see in MS is realistic animation utilizing the new glassesless 3D tech. The tiny screen/viewing area is perfect for that 3D tech. That would also give tourists a new reason to try MS. MS: Relaunch!
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>And before you tell me that is only because SSE is a people-eating omnimover, SSE has a capacity of 1,400 riders per hour while Mission Space has a capacity of 1,600 riders per hour.<< That is only if all (4) pods are operating. With the lackluster response by guests, and with most thrill seekers passing it up for a tepid 60mph TestTrack, they hardly ever run all four. On some days they will only run (2). Therefore capacity is down to 800-1200 per hour. Even with the reduction of capacity, they have a hard time building up more than a 10 minute wait, and that is with them fudging the ride wait time with over-estimations - counting the preshows. Sorry guys, for 230 million, its a failure of an attraction. Nowhere near met Disney's pie-in-sky, out-of-touch, expectations.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ Also, I'm sure if Disney knew they would disable two of the four pods for "green team" rides, they wouldn't have gone to the expense for four centrifuges. Talk about a colossal waste. Green team moves around less than the unpopular Body Wars next door.
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations Sorry guys, for 230 million, its a failure of an attraction. Nowhere near met Disney's pie-in-sky, out-of-touch, expectations.<< estimated cost was bellow $100 mil, and they have since gotten the capacity & gate bump to justify. Don't be so gloom and doom...
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Enough rambling...in my mind Mission Space is a yet to be completely discovered success. Engineering, themeing and guest participation. << Amazing what passes for "guest participation" these days.
