Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Matter of fact, name some health insurance companies where a Dad in any state can get affordable, reasonable health insurance for his child in California no matter what state Dad lives in.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>But like Mitt Romney said "Let people buy insurance across state lines"<< You know why, right Donny? Because then insurance companies can all relocate to the state with the least amount of regulation and the least amount of oversight. Then you have a state whose tax base is heavily dependent on one industry and they do everything in their power to keep that industry happy. So that industry gets away with bloody murder and there's only one group that gets hurt: consumers. (Feel free to ask an Alaskan how it is being beholden to the oil industry, to the tune of 90% of their state revenue.) You are a consumer of health insurance, Donny. You should want regulation and price controls. You should want the government stepping in and saying they can't deny your child care if she gets leukemia. P.S. Go look up Bain Capital and check out how Romney made his money. (Hint: it involves layoffs and offshoring.)
Originally Posted By Mr X ***But like Mitt Romney said "Let people buy insurance across state lines"*** That's exactly the problem I am illustrating. That will make things much worse. Do some research on banks and credit card distributors and get back to me about how allowing mega-corporations to shop around for the most lenient state is somehow a good idea.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Labuda if a State like Wisconsin wants to create ahealth care system like Badger care then I am OK with that.But I don't want the federal government to do it" I don't quite follow your logic there, Donny. Why is it ok at the state level but not the federal level? Either way, if it's in your location, you're likely going to be paying taxes that go towards it...
Originally Posted By Labuda "From who? Name a few companies that will allow a Dad living in one state to buy affordable, reasonable health insurance for his child that lives in another state. Go ahead, name some." Heck, name one where you can do that for in-state. When I had to have my former husband's son on my health insurance back in the day, it DOUBLED my paycheck deductions to have to pay for myself, the husband, and the stepchild who was in another city in the same state. Doubled compared to just me & the husband, I mean.
Originally Posted By Labuda "P.S. Go look up Bain Capital and check out how Romney made his money. (Hint: it involves layoffs and offshoring.)" Well, yeah... why have pinko commie employees in the US when you can find people to pay MUCH less overseas? Who cars about the real 'mericuns?
Originally Posted By Donny My wife sells almost all manner of Insurance,one is health Insurance AARP is one of many companies itching to be able to sell across state lines.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I think what Donny might be trying to get across is if the federal government is in charge of health care it could lead into more problems whereas the states handle it individually any problems would just be exclusive to that state. In theory it's not a bad idea but there's just one problem, in either scenario politicians are in charge of the idea.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "I think what Donny might be trying to get across is if the federal government is in charge of health care it could lead into more problems whereas the states handle it individually any problems would just be exclusive to that state. In theory it's not a bad idea but there's just one problem, in either scenario politicians are in charge of the idea." So, sort of a "not in my back yard" thing? It's ok, as long as it's not happening to him, right? Yeah, that seems fair...
Originally Posted By Donny Yeah whether it's state or Federal regulations but with the ability to buy across State lines no government will have a monopoly over it's citizens.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Yeah whether it's state or Federal regulations but with the ability to buy across State lines no government will have a monopoly over it's citizens." Yeah, but the insurance companies sure will!
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Yeah whether it's state or Federal regulations but with the ability to buy across State lines no government will have a monopoly over it's citizens.<< Before you keep pushing the "across state lines" argument, don't you think you should actually respond to the concerns raised and explain why it's a good idea?
Originally Posted By queenbee <<no government will have a monopoly over it's citizens>> No, health insurance companies will have a "monopoly over it's citizens" because they will all be headquatered in the state willing to give them the least regulation. This will allow them to concentrate their political power in one State, maybe even just a couple districts. Ultimately, consumers, like you and I, will not benefit from this plan.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***AARP is one of many companies itching to be able to sell across state lines*** Why exactly does that seem like a good idea to you (AARP or otherwise)?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***but there's just one problem, in either scenario politicians are in charge of the idea*** Wrong, DD. Corporations are in charge of the idea. Politicians just facilitate it. Would you disagree?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***don't you think you should actually respond to the concerns raised and explain why it's a good idea?*** Good luck with that ec.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***No, health insurance companies will have a "monopoly over it's citizens" because they will all be headquatered in the state willing to give them the least regulation. This will allow them to concentrate their political power in one State, maybe even just a couple districts. Ultimately, consumers, like you and I, will not benefit from this plan*** Exactly. queenbee proves why she's queen right here. Counterargument?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<Wrong, DD. Corporations are in charge of the idea. Politicians just facilitate it. Would you disagree?>> Tomato/Tomahto
Originally Posted By Mr X Really dude? You equate the two? Don't you realize you can SEPARATE the two if you and your fellow citizens want to?
