Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Where is Iggy? I haven't see her for a long time!>> Good question. I haven't talked to her since I saw her at WDW last month. I miss her! Time to call Texas!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Darn it, my new laptop keyboard is awful - I did not intentionally make a gramatical error, I of course meant seen not see.
Originally Posted By jonvn You know, you really shouldn't hate people over this sort of stuff. Hate is best for more serious bits of evil, such as Hitler or Al Qaeda. Strong dislilke. Aversion. I think that's a far mroe reasonable thing to feel about this stuff.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^No. Hate is a normal, healthy human emotion when people do vile, evil acts against you and the people you love. Sure, they aren't genocidal madmen, but they're worthy of hate just the same.
Originally Posted By jonvn "when people do vile, evil acts against you and the people you love." That's right, that's what hate is for. Unless someone at the Disney company has engaged in a vile or evil act against you or the people you love, then it's an inappropriate thing to be feeling.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Yes, Jon. There are people at TWDC who have done vile things to me and people I care about and still collect paychecks. And others who -- thankfully -- have moved on. I don't focus on these folks. But I do hate them. I just try to keep them out of my mind except when they get brought up in the real world, and wish that karma truly cathces up to them. But, honestly, I don't feel you or anyone else has ANY right to tell me what is or is not appropriate to feel.
Originally Posted By danyoung And jon, just cuz it seems like the right time, I certainly don't hate you. I don't think we'll ever see eye to eye. But letting online discourse rise to the level where it gets all emotional is not a healthy thing. Looking forward to bantering with you in another thread!
Originally Posted By jonvn "There are people at TWDC who have done vile things to me and people I care about and still collect paychecks." Well, now I'm curious, what on earth happened? "I don't feel you or anyone else has ANY right to tell me what is or is not appropriate to feel." Well, if you HATE someone I would think there ought to be a strong reason since it is a strong emotion. I am assuming you don't even know these people, but maybe you do. "I certainly don't hate you." Good, I don't hate you either. I don't even dislike you in the least. You may have annoyed me, and I just don't hide that. But I know the way I write just gets people worked up, and then they get angry with me. Everyone does. My attempts to moderate it don't work too well. Don't even think about it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 "There are people at TWDC who have done vile things to me and people I care about and still collect paychecks." <<Well, now I'm curious, what on earth happened? >> Jon, I'm not going to put personal information out there. Besides, if I did, I'd be scolded for slandering good people who can't defend themselves. But they've earned every negative feeling I have. And I KNOW one of them reads here regularly because he is paranoid about his future with the company. I'd be too. "I don't feel you or anyone else has ANY right to tell me what is or is not appropriate to feel." <<Well, if you HATE someone I would think there ought to be a strong reason since it is a strong emotion. I am assuming you don't even know these people, but maybe you do.>> It depends on who you are talking about. This thread started as a simple breaking of news about who the new No. 2 at the MK is. I don't know Dan personally, although it is possible I've met him. I do know his Dad, who was a VP at WDW until about 18 months ago, and was very well-liked and respected. The only person I have ever identified here as someone I have had issues with is Cynthia Harriss, and when last I heard she was unemployed and spending time with her family again. I don't hate her. But I do dislike her ... strongly. ANd I did know her when she was in Anaheim ... quite well, unfortunately. I think people assume I have personal issues with WDW park execs. I don't. I know and have a great deal of respect for Dr. Beth Stevens, who was DAK's VP until her recent promotion. I believe Jim MacPhee at EPCOT is a wonderful Disney lifer who 'gets it.' I have heard good things about Studios VP Michael O'Gratton, who I met years ago when he was in charge of MK entertainment. And MK VP Phil Holmes ... well ... uhm ... three out of four ain't bad. I don't like the way WDW is run by Al Weiss, Meg Crofton and Erin Wallace. But I have only met two of the three and very casually. So anyone who thinks I have personal issues with WDW execs is just flat out wrong! "I certainly don't hate you." <<Good, I don't hate you either. I don't even dislike you in the least. You may have annoyed me, and I just don't hide that. But I know the way I write just gets people worked up, and then they get angry with me. Everyone does. My attempts to moderate it don't work too well. Don't even think about it.>> Good. I HATE you both! (this is humor, folks)
Originally Posted By jonvn "Good. I HATE you both! (this is humor, folks)" Bite me. What did Harriss do that was so unpleasant? The thing is she was obviously so phony from the get go, but people just loved her touchy feely attitude. It was plainly an act. It's hard to know whether these people do a good job, or a bad job, given what they have to work with. IT might be that they have their hands tied, and can only do so much. Or it could be they are inept. The world is full of inept people.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, Spirit of 74, duckling, you've done it again. You've managed to speak your mind in a heroic fashion and managed to defend your points of view so much better than the average duckling. We applaud you and hope you realize there's always a lighted candle waiting for you in the window of our little cottage in Morva. ORGOCH: 'Course ya'd be a fool ta come all that way ta see a tramp like Orddu! Best keep away if'n ya knows what's good fer ya! ORWEN: You can come to see me, though! I'm not a tramp. I just like eating donuts all day long. ORGOCH: (sigh) I give up...
