Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Thanks for the report, Leo. I'm just waiting for you to chime in my Social Media thread on how restrooms play into Disney's strategies for the fan community! Cosmic Ray's ... what can I say? I try and spend as little time as possible there ... hell, my meal at its TDL 'sister', which is still called the Tomorrowland Terrace, was the worst meal I had in 11 days in Tokyo! I am a bit surprised about the seating deal. I do know that they were doing that starting last year during Spring Break since they don't have enough QSR capacity (why you will probably see a 'new' version of the AC in the MK soon). I find it hard to believe that it's that busy in early June (not peak season at all anymore) to warrant that. I've said my piece on the Mansion queue and new ending. They aren't the worst thing and there are elements (of both) that I like, but overall it was spending money to 'fix' something (maybe they think it's plussing) that didn't require it at all in a park with huge pressing needs. I absolutely understand your feelings about thinking 'why am I here?' ... there was a time when I never felt that way about a Disney Park, but being in the MK in hot, sticky, busy times just is flat out not enjoyable to me (in fact, it can be hellish). If I were at WDW now, I'd likely be on my arse by a pool or inside at a bar. I may be a bit OCD, but I don't get anything out of standing in line behind smelly, stinky tourists to ride something I've done hundreds of times before. But if you're going to Hawaii soon, you got nothing to complain about! Go visit Aulani since it's about to open and then try and buy something at the Ala Moana Disney Store ;-)
Originally Posted By leobloom >> And it's impossible to not have fun there, even if it's June. << There was a time fifteen years ago when I absolutely believed this. But this visit and my visit to MGM last December (which was hands-down the worst or most boring time I've ever had at a park) have be reconsidering that. I think I've grown out of the a-day-at-Disney-is-better-than-a-day-anywhere-else mentality. I know that's not what you're saying, EE, but there are probably some here who would subscribe to that idea.
Originally Posted By leobloom Glad to see my thread could create a drift into the attitudes of CMs dealing with petulant guests. Just to clarify, I didn't come to ORL strictly for WDW this trip. I was here waiting for my other "real" vacation to start. So I knew it was going to be crowded and hot and there wouldn't be much new, but I wanted to see ST2 so I could have an opinion on it. What amazes me -- and my point in remarking on the crowds -- is that WDW is still doing booming business (or at least so it appears in my eyes) despite not opening any new attractions this summer. (An updated ST2 isn't a new attraction -- it's simple updated.) The crowds say to me that WDW's business model isn't going to change anytime soon, no matter what incredible things UNI is doing up the road. Unlike many of you, when I go to WDW, I go for a day. I don't stay at the resorts now that I have family in ORL, and I haven't paid for a ticket since 2003. My feeling from this trip is that for me the attractions aren't really worth the hassle of visiting. It can be fun to spend time with friends and family, but WDW is just the backdrop. It's no longer the main attraction for me.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Thanks for the report, Leo. I'm just waiting for you to chime in my Social Media thread on how restrooms play into Disney's strategies for the fan community! << I would feel horrible for derailing a serious thread with my potty talk. >> I may be a bit OCD, but I don't get anything out of standing in line behind smelly, stinky tourists to ride something I've done hundreds of times before. << My feelings, too. >> But if you're going to Hawaii soon, you got nothing to complain about! Go visit Aulani since it's about to open and then try and buy something at the Ala Moana Disney Store ;-) << HEY, I could go photograph and test the new Aulani restrooms! On second thought, I'll pass.
Originally Posted By MousDad >>And it's impossible to not have fun there, even if it's June.<< Remember, you have no kids. And 'impossible' is a very strong word. lol.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<why you will probably see a 'new' version of the AC in the MK soon>> Can't wait to see how they bastardize the concept. Of course, it could also make the land even better. Streetmosphere please.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>There was a time fifteen years ago when I absolutely believed this. But this visit and my visit to MGM last December (which was hands-down the worst or most boring time I've ever had at a park) have be reconsidering that. I think I've grown out of the a-day-at-Disney-is-better-than-a-day-anywhere-else mentality. I know that's not what you're saying, EE, but there are probably some here who would subscribe to that idea.<<< Well, it was crappy ol' MGM... ;-) I partially suscribe to that idea, as it IS Disney, there is a sort of energy about the place, but it's possible to loose it quick when it's broken down and dirty, and it's hot, and you just aren't feeling it. I did that in 2008... Rare that I get that low, but it happens.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Remember, you have no kids. And 'impossible' is a very strong word. lol<<<< I have my Aunt. I have my Uncle. I'll have my Cousins. Trust me, it'll be like having children. LOL At least my parents are sane. Sort of.
Originally Posted By GOB I make it a point to not visit WDW when it's crowded. That's why we go in late August and the slow months for now on, when there are 20 minute or less standby lines for the Etickets and walk ons for the rest of them. What I found is when you visit during the crowded times, you spend over half of your in-park time waiting in lines. For semi-annual visitor like us, this is unacceptable. We're already grossly overpaying to even be in the park; there's no reason why we should spend all of that time and money in the park when you only have a dozen or so attractions to show for it. Of course, I'm not knocking people who visit during the crowded months, as I'm aware that most people don't have the flexibility to visit in the offseason, and of course, there are downsides to visiting in the off season as well.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer To be fair, in recent June visits, waits were pretty nonexistent. EPCOT was dead last year, and the MK only had about 15 min waits at the most. Hoping for a repeat performance, this year.
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations I absolutely understand your feelings about thinking 'why am I here?' ... there was a time <<when I never felt that way about a Disney Park, but being in the MK in hot, sticky, busy times just is flat out not enjoyable to me (in fact, it can be hellish). If I were at WDW now, I'd likely be on my arse by a pool or inside at a bar. I may be a bit OCD, but I don't get anything out of standing in line behind smelly, stinky tourists to ride something I've done hundreds of times before.>> When it is busy & hot, I'm usually out of the MK by noon and by the pool or @ DTD for lunch/cocktails; will go back after the sun sets.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 "NOBODY'S parents are sane. After all, they've had kids." so true , especially if those kids have already passed thru or are in teenage years
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I'm two weeks away from being 20... so... yeah, they are insane. LOL.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 EE, I didn't relise you are so young. You are almost as old as one of my DD's.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 You don't sound like someone who is only 19...almost 20year old. Take that as a good thing.
Originally Posted By MousDad Must be rough being one of the most eligible and desirable of all celebrity Disney bachelors.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>You don't sound like someone who is only 19...almost 20year old. Take that as a good thing.<<< Thank you! And yeah, I do. It's helped me.
