Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << There have also been deaths by those using the Monorail, 4 people were killed in Germany when a Monorail derailed in April of 1999. >> How about some statistics on the number of people who have been run over by light rail systems? I've seen a number of headlines about people getting run over by the San Diego trolley since I moved here in 2006. I expect the number is higher than 4.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer And how many folks have ridden a LRT as compared to a Monorail? You know, deaths per million, as other vehicles are counted, such as cars and trucks.... Heck, someone was killed on the Disneyland Monorail, but it was the guests fault by climbing onto the track. From Wikipedia... >>In 1966, Thomas Guy Cleveland, 19, of Northridge, California, was struck and killed by the monorail, which then dragged him 40 feet down the track. This occurred on Grad Nite while he was trying to sneak into the park by climbing onto the monorail track.<< How many of the LRT deaths were planned suicides, or pedestrians and drivers that ignored the lowered flashing warning gates, or doing other stupid things, like jumping the safety fence? Both riding a LRT and a Monorail are very safe modes of travel, but as with anything in life, there is some risk.
Originally Posted By patrickegan I’m still not convinced Maglev isn’t a viable solution. <a href="http://www.railserve.com/jump/jump.cgi?ID=5627" target="_blank">http://www.railserve.com/jump/ jump.cgi?ID=5627</a>
Originally Posted By patrickegan and maybe a new people mover??? <a href="http://www.alternatetransport.com/" target="_blank">http://www.alternatetransport. com/</a>
Originally Posted By jonvn Maglev is not viable. It's too expensive, and incompatible with existing track systems.
Originally Posted By jonvn There is no reason to put a maglev train up that runs only 4 miles. The whole point of it is that it can run at super fast speeds.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss There was no reason to have a monorail that went nowhere but in a circle around Tomorrowland in 1959 either. But Walt chose to have it built to demonstrate the viability of monorails. Plus it was cool. I know, I know, those aren't good enough reasons for TWDC to build a maglev these days.
Originally Posted By patrickegan That’s your opinion, possibly the system could be integrated with the other mass transit projects in OC.
Originally Posted By jonvn ok, well, when they put a maglev train in just for anaheim, I'll buy you a day at Disneyland.
Originally Posted By Mr X **There is no reason to put a maglev train up that runs only 4 miles. The whole point of it is that it can run at super fast speeds.** 4 miles really does seem silly...the train wouldn't even get up to any sort of decent speed for that distance I would imagine. The maglev in Shanghai, however, is only 18 miles I think. That, too, seems weird to me, but they built it nonetheless.
Originally Posted By Mr X How about this...a maglev that connects Disneyland and DisneyWorld!? (talk about a parkhopper!)
Originally Posted By patrickegan <a href="http://www.kcra.com/traffic/15269060/detail.html?rss=sac&psp=news" target="_blank">http://www.kcra.com/traffic/15 269060/detail.html?rss=sac&psp=news</a> @ $60 million/mile without overruns Maglev is in the ballpark. Sure they don't need to do it but as someone else aptly posted, they didn’t need to do the monorail (or the park for that matter). I’m sure some would agree that it would be more of a showpiece/talking point of technology that harkens back to the original Tomorrowland concept. Ton’s of free press worldwide acclaim and examples of how Disney thinking is moving back toward the cutting edge. I’d be much more willing to ride the Maglev from the airport (with family and luggage), for say $10 to $20 a head then try the same ride with the non-rush hour LR crowd. I don’t know, maybe some would be just as satisfied with a Winnie the Poohed Light rail system?
Originally Posted By jonvn They aren't going to build a 4 mile long maglev system. If they build anything, it will be with an eye towards expanding and interconnecting with other systems.
Originally Posted By jonvn Yep. And that is why that is what they would put in, if anything. Disney might expand their monorail to a third park once they build it. But I suspect if Anaheim itself were to build something, then it would probably be some sort of trolley system that could then interconnect with other regional trolley systems. There would be a transfer/transit center connecting it to the monorails. That is what I think the most likely thing to be done is. Next would be the idea of Anaheim building on its own monorail system. But this would likely be different than what is in Disney now, because those trains are really kind of small. They are totally nonstandard to even other monorail systems. But they could do this. That is if they build anything. They could also just use speciality bus lines. Why have a trolley stop at the Pond when nothing is going on there, for instance. So busses are far more flexible.
Originally Posted By jonvn I know busses are lousy. But they are the most practical. It's why they are used in WDW as much as they are.
Originally Posted By spacejockey WDW is a differnt beast though. The growth for the whole WDW resort is completely controled by Disney. There is going to be MAJOR grid lock in Anahiem with another park, Garden Walk, several new hotels, expanded convention centers, Platnum Triangle development, possible NFL, and all of the developmet planned for the area.
