Originally Posted By dshyates You know, like resort guests staying the parks when they are open for resort guests. Those bastages.
Originally Posted By Manfried Like APers staying late and wanting more and more and more for nothing.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I am not sure how AP's are gaming the system. They can only stay as late as the park is open. As for EMH. Disney's current policy (which changes constantly) is that guests with resort id's can ride the attractions and such but we are told not to ask people with id's to leave the park. They are more than welcome to shop and eat. Gotta make that money I guess.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Those bastages.< Iceholes! Totally forgettable movie, but the twisted swearing was pretty funny!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom sjhym333, I think we knew what you ment to write <smile>. The shop remain open. Unfortunately, the food and restaurants do not remain open <unhappy smile>.
Originally Posted By Manfried <<I am not sure how AP's are gaming the system.>> Not sure? Right. I have some shares in a bridge you might want to purchase....
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Really? Please explain to me how an AP holder games a running monorail system
Originally Posted By sjhym333 They are the only ones complaining on this board. I expect that guest services at the monorail resorts are currently getting an earful from their resort guests, most of them who are not AP holders. The resort monorails have been running while the MK has allowed guests in it since the resort opened. Even during hard ticket events the resort monorail has run. If I were spending $300 plus a night for a resort on the monorail system I would be pretty ticked if I had to take a bus for EMH for instance.
Originally Posted By Manfried Well then instead of whining about it, spend your money on a stay and not be able to take a monorail. Oh wait, then you would have no right to complain as you would know about it ahead of time and bought your hotel room and tickets anyway. The evil mouse would then laugh all the way to the bank. The problem is the monorails cost money, and just like you and me, Disney is looking at the monorails as a cost, not a profit center, as that is what they are. Just like gasoline and electricity for us.
Originally Posted By -em There has been plenty of complaints from more than just those who post on the board- Several friends who work concierge at the 'temp and Poly have commented on how much feedback they've heard (course when the Epcot beam was out of service for most of the day one day this week added more fuel to the fire...) As for a cost v profit- Most things at WDW ARE a cost rather than a profit.. It costs to run busses, boats, 'rails, trams, attractions,parades,fireworks etc all which don't "generate cash flow" so on that logic we should only have parking lots, turnstiles, stores, restaurants and hotel rooms. Nothing else cause they don't generate cash... -em
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>There has been plenty of complaints from more than just those who post on the board- Several friends who work concierge at the 'temp and Poly have commented on how much feedback they've heard (course when the Epcot beam was out of service for most of the day one day this week added more fuel to the fire...)<<< Good. Has anyone higher in the ranks taken note?
Originally Posted By Bolna <<so on that logic we should only have parking lots, turnstiles, stores, restaurants and hotel rooms.>> Very well said, -em! The nature of WDW is that there are many things that don't directly generate cash, but they are the reason why people spend money on those things that do.
Originally Posted By Manfried You know what? Running a business is hard. How many here actually run their own business? Doubt that many do, their businesses are probably more like hobbies.
Originally Posted By danyoung >The problem is the monorails cost money, and just like you and me, Disney is looking at the monorails as a cost, not a profit center, as that is what they are.< I'm usually one of the first to try to look at both sides, to defend a Disney decision even when I'm not wild about it. But this one is just dead wrong. As others have said, one of the main reasons to stay at the Contemporary or the Poly or the GF is that it's on the monorail, and goes a long way to solving one of the bigger logistical items of a Disney vacation - transportation. For Disney to have the MK open but NOT providing monorail service to the monorail resorts is very foolish. I can even see them closing down the Epcot to TTC line during those late nights - people can park in the MK lot if they want to stay late at the MK. But to restrict access to their high dollar resorts just to save a few bucks? Not at all cool.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>You know what? Running a business is hard. How many here actually run their own business? Doubt that many do, their businesses are probably more like hobbies.<<< Interesting generalization, I used to run a $100m a year business as a part of a multinational $4bn business. Now I am CEO of a much smaller business, but we do ok.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>You know what? Running a business is hard. How many here actually run their own business? Doubt that many do, their businesses are probably more like hobbies.<<< Of course it is. But for a major entertainment entity, keeping longer hours isn't exactly keeping "mom and pop Disney" from being OK.
Originally Posted By njDizfan >>>The problem is the monorails cost money, and just like you and me, Disney is looking at the monorails as a cost, not a profit center, as that is what they are. Just like gasoline and electricity for us.<<< That's the problem with us Americans, we feel we are entitled to everything without working for it. How dare we expect a monorail resort to get us back to our resort during park hours. I say if it doesn't generate income it's expendable. hmmm..now to quantify what generates income.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom So njDizfan, using your logic then the ONLY things WDW should offer is parkinglots, ticket gates, restaurants, resorts, hotels and NO Parks! I guess "again using your logic" that since all those things listed about would involve capital expenses with no immediate revenue generation like roads, water, sewer, power..... then WDW should just throw in the towel. I'm not sure who is was probably a year ago said that Disney's next gate should be a huge staircase that you just walk up and throw your wallet into.
