Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<<The Monsters coaster is said to be every bit as immersive as RSR with a few very large show scenes and full animatronics followed by a thrill section.>> <That would be very different to the original door coaster that was planned for D-MGM about a decade ago. > Are they talking about a stand-up coaster now? That would make so much more sense to me (as a door), and could be unique.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Are they talking about a stand-up coaster now? >> I've no idea as I've not read the article but there hasn't been a major stand-up coaster in years. Both B&M and Intamin made them but I don't think there has been one installed for 15 years or so (Six Flags have moved a fair few around and rebranded them). Stand-up isn't particularly family-friendly either - I'm not sure that would fly.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The article was vague but did say something about being "strapped to" the door. I thought perhaps you had heard more about it. I've only ridden stand-ups with the track below. Imagine a stand-up with the track above (as in the first Monsters.) Perhaps two people standing side by side and maybe on each side of the door. Not enough side-to-side swing to freak kids out, but enough to make it fun. That could be a unique coaster. The speed could be moderate, thus making it family friendly, but the uniqueness of the design, and of course, the visuals, make it appealing to adults also.
Originally Posted By leemac <<The article was vague but did say something about being "strapped to" the door. I thought perhaps you had heard more about it.>> Ah. Not heard that one before. I can't see how that would work either. Anything remotely door-like would block out a lot of the field of vision for those riding behind. Plus you would still need some sort of body/seat moulding for the guest to sit in/ride against. I can't see how that would work (and I've not seen any mock-ups of the conveyance to suggest that is happening). I gather Bob Weis was at the meeting which suggests that it was either about HKDL/SDL (he oversees both) or he was being used as a tour guide as he was executive producer for the DCA expansion. He doesn't hold the DLR portfolio any more.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I can picture it working... you'd just need sufficient space between the doors for the visuals to work. And whatever they'd need to strap you in to the door safely a la a stand-up coaster wouldn't really require any more suspension (pun intended) of disbelief than, say, a "service elevator" somehow having 30 seats and seat belts. Of course, it's highly unlikely. But hey - as mawnck said elsewhere... discussion board.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Uh, no." No? There are fans who think that Walt's vision for Tomorrowland is the only viable one. It has to be about futurism and the kinetics of the land. There are plenty of people with very narrow vision out there.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I gather Bob Weis was at the meeting which suggests that it was either about HKDL/SDL (he oversees both) or he was being used as a tour guide as he was executive producer for the DCA expansion. He doesn't hold the DLR portfolio any more.<< I'm not sure what Bob Weis looks like ... but here's a photo where some people are jumping the gun - And assuming, the presence of these execs (including Iger) means - Something big is shaping up for the DLR: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://micechat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/pic14.jpg">http://micechat.com/wp-content...ic14.jpg</a> My hunch .. is a walk through the DLR .. just for the sake of a walk through the DLR, while they carry-on about other things. And even if they are pondering future possibilities for the DLR .. they are way off - and like so many other projects - things can change. As they often do, anyway!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>There are fans who think that Walt's vision for Tomorrowland is the only viable one.<< No. There are fans who PREFER that vision. I happen to be one of them. And I also think that switching to a Star Wars theme would suck eggs. Almost everything about Star Wars has sucked eggs since 1984.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Am I the only one hoping for a Gungan overlay of the sub ride...Especially if they add light guns to the subs. Who wouldn't want to shoot the crap out of Jar Jar Binks... 3 to 4 hour lines for sure....
Originally Posted By oc_dean Whoosa are yousa? Don't hitses me, hit the Gooberfish!! Please, no, no, NO, NO ........... BZZZZZ! Dead!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Walt was ENORMOUSLY interested in the design and themeing of Tomorrowland. That is why when the DL budget ran short he opened Tomorrowland in 1955 with only THREE (count them, THREE) attractions, trying to fill in with exhibits by corporate sponsors. Tomorrowland remained largely vacant space until 1959. Of course space is largely vacant, so perhaps it was just a reflection of Walt's genius. Yup... that MUST be it!!
Originally Posted By planodisney Just a little update on this. take this for what you will, I know when people come on here and say they have some inside info I usually take it with a BIG grain of salt. However, I give you my word this is a VERY good source who I get to have a short chat with once in a blue moon. I asked a few questions. 1. I haven't heard anything from inside Disney since its release, are they pleased with MU's performance so far? 2. I gave the information we received on that miceage update and asked how accurate it was. 3. I've always been curious about how much Disney cares about fan site approval on future rumored projects. I never get specifics and try not to even ask, but I do get some insight. He told me that yes, these projects are being worked on, but that they are just some of MANY projects being worked on for DLR at this time and are in NO way set in stone or have been greenlit at this point. Again, take this for what its worth, but I give you my word its a VERY good source.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Makes perfect sense to me. It's Imagineering's job to have multiple possible ideas in the pipeline - anywhere from "blue sky" to "this will seemingly work, but nothing's been funded" to "just awaiting final approval" and everywhere between those points. Height balloons, as far as I can tell, mean nothing other than "Okay... IF we were to build something this high, what would that do for the sightlines from point A, point B and point C." It doesn't necessarily mean something's close to getting the green light.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>He told me that yes, these projects are being worked on, but that they are just some of MANY projects being worked on for DLR at this time and are in NO way set in stone or have been greenlit at this point.<< And this contradicts MiceAge, how?
Originally Posted By leemac <<I can picture it working... you'd just need sufficient space between the doors for the visuals to work. And whatever they'd need to strap you in to the door safely a la a stand-up coaster wouldn't really require any more suspension (pun intended) of disbelief than, say, a "service elevator" somehow having 30 seats and seat belts.>> I must admit that I'm struggling to grasp how that might work - but then I'm no engineer. Dark ride elements to coasters seem to work best when the vehicle is stationary and the action is above your head (like the Yeti animation on Everest and the mine explosion at HKDL's Runaway Mine Cars). The final Yeti worked well just due to the sheer size and scale of him. The two other scenes in the HKDL coaster also work - the first is at a relatively slow portion of the coaster and the third is as the brakes are gunning. However if you have to disguise the conveyance then you are into some restricted fields of vision. The original door coaster had a mocked up seat configuration sitting in the model shop for ages. A lot of the adornments hung on the vehicles were scream canisters that snuggly fitted around hydraulics etc.
Originally Posted By planodisney It doesn't. I didn't intend to insinuate that at all. Just passing on what I had received.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I'm not sure what Bob Weis looks like>> Weis is the guy directly behind TOS in that photo.
Originally Posted By planodisney could you have the door seats be so close to each other, in the hanging coaster scenario, that you had know visual except on your side, and then have duplicate show scenes on each side?
Originally Posted By leemac <<Height balloons, as far as I can tell, mean nothing other than "Okay... IF we were to build something this high, what would that do for the sightlines from point A, point B and point C." It doesn't necessarily mean something's close to getting the green light.>> I can't remember a single occasion where a height test was carried out for a specific approved attraction. They are almost always done in blue sky conceptualisation to determine what is possible. I've not seen photos of the recent one at DCA but I'm struggling to understand the point. Those HPB soundstages are big ugly boxes that are visible from the esplanade. There isn't any way to get around that unless you want to bother dressing them up like the IJA show building.
