Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I will say that it is getting harder and harder to find an off-season at WDW << How true.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Then there is the DVC factor, which compells DVC-owners to schedule a trip every year with all the consideration of off-season vs. peak season rates.>> Let's kill all the DVC'ers...
Originally Posted By mrichmondj ^^ Not intended to be a jab at DVC'ers, just an observation on how people's vacation habits are changing.
Originally Posted By pheneix >>>The Spring CP at WDW is nowhere near the size of the summer program, even though the number of guests in the park reaches the same level during the weeks surrounding Spring Break.<<< Again, not entirely so. The Summer CP program is usually about the same size as the other two programs, but it gets a sizable boost from the alumni program where former CPs can work a summer between semesters. However, Disney eliminated the alumni program for this summer, so this year's summer CP program will probably not be any larger than the others. The guest flow is also smaller during Spring Break. The two weeks around Easter can give the summer season a run for its money, but the month of March is dramatically less attended than June or July. August is about the same.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj Since Easter varies from year to year, you can't base "guest flow" estimates on any particular month vs. another month for the Spring Break period. Every year is different depending on the dates of Easter. This might escape some folks who just look at attendance in a given month vs. the same month a year prior or vs. another month of the year. The 2 weeks around Easter are among the busiest of the year, and the additional weeks surrounding other scholastic Spring Breaks are also heavier than any other "off season" time. It's been this way for over 30 years. I'm not sure why people want to contest this. Spring Break is busy, it's crowded, and there aren't as many people working in the parks as during the summer months or Christmas holidays because the pool of temporary laborers isn't as large. It's pretty much a fact of life.
Originally Posted By WolvesTwilight Actually, the number of CPs for Spring is smaller, actually. All of the ICPs from Brazil have also left and are just now coming in. Spring Break brings in a lot of kids who think its funny to pull the little bar in the confectionary and laugh as a wave of Jelly Beans pours out. -.-;; And what's wrong with Main Street East? =\ You know its going to be changed this summer, big time. I can't say what is going to happen, but the revamp will be nice.
Originally Posted By ourmagicears Read Topic: WDW in the news" <<Saw the tail end of an ugly incident at the Finding Nemo Musical on Friday afternoon in which security and county sherriff's deputies were called and security CMs were quite nasty in chasing off anyone who might 'witness' anything while seated in a nearby area... as near as I can figure, the man with a wife and three young daughters (one confined to a wheelchair) were denied access to the show after being let into the theater due to the fact they have no organization when letting people in to the show.They seem to always let 100 people too many in and then assume it's 1987 and folks can just squish in, which naturally doesn't happen. I take it that the father assumed he was guaranteed a spot in the handicapped area when he was let in and things took a nasty turn, although I doubt it became physical. The wife/mother was crying and seperated from her husband with the girls. I don't know any other details, but maybe someone else here does? I just had a gut feeling (and my gut is usually right) that while the man may have told off a CM or two, he wasn't an evildoer and his trip was just ruined.>> This may be what you saw!
Originally Posted By ourmagicears ^^^NO! I was saying "Read the WDW on the News discussion board". This might be a law suit stemming from what Spirit witnessed. Then I read that this law suit was from incident that happened in 2005.
Originally Posted By Socrates I just wish I had the opportunity to visit WDW frequently enough so I could notice trends like this. Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I've mentioned more than a few times that my wife and I went to the WDW for a week right after Thanksgiving. I never got around to doing a trip report. We stayed at the Contemporary and visited the Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, Epcot and Downtown Disney. Without going into tedious detail, we weren't "wowed". We live less than 30 minutes from Anaheim, and go there whenever we feel like it. We'll eventually make our way back to WDW, but it likely won't be for several years. It was nice and all, but there are many others places we'd rather visit and spend the amount of money a trip like this would cost.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<This may be what you saw!>> It just seemed very ugly whatever it was ... not as ugly as seeing the aftermath of a fatal accident on I-95 today, but ugly in a different way.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I just wish I had the opportunity to visit WDW frequently enough so I could notice trends like this.>> Ya sure? You might get tainted and jaded like some of us ... might even post your observations, which might shatter some folks who live in magical glass castles.
Originally Posted By Labuda "The 2 weeks around Easter are among the busiest of the year, and the additional weeks surrounding other scholastic Spring Breaks are also heavier than any other "off season" time. It's been this way for over 30 years. I'm not sure why people want to contest this." Maybe because some of us arrived the day after Easter in 2004, and only saw people leaving in droves. And never spent more than 15-20 minutes in queue for any ride that trip.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<<You might get tainted and jaded like some of us ... might even post your observations, which might shatter some folks who live in magical glass castles>>> I really hope that never happens to me. WDW is the only escape I have any more. Many of your (plural) complaints are legit, but things break down in real life too, cars, bodies, tvs, and especially computers. If rides are forever breaking down, that's different. When I get back there next year, I don't want to be looking for faults, I want to enjoy meself, not looking for dirty trashcans, or how soft is this towel. As long as the towels and sheets are clean, I'm ok.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<When I get back there next year, I don't want to be looking for faults, I want to enjoy meself, not looking for dirty trashcans, or how soft is this towel. As long as the towels and sheets are clean, I'm ok.>> See, that's the rub. There's a tacit/underlying point you're insinuating that I am looking for faults. That's not true and it places the responsibility on me for having the keen senses of observation and history to notice things ... many that should be obvious to ANYONE not blinded by pixie dust. If a trashcan is overflowing, I will take note. If the towels in my $400 room are rough, torn and cheaper than those at a basic airport Hampton Inn, I'll notice. WDW is too big. And management has sold its soul to reach certain projections. All isn't lost, though. When Jay Rasulo moves on, as he shortly will with Disney and Iger praising him for things like the opening of HKDL, the expansion of DCL and DVC, getting Four Seasons to build at WDW and the likely announcement of the first regional center/mini-park in Asia (NOTE: Disney ALWAYS praises departing execs ... even folks like Ovitz and Pressler), things may change. There's a growing realization in Burbank (it's been in Glendale for years) that WDW is just being milked with nothing substanitive added, but plenty taken away, and that will eventually put an impact on the bottom line -- especially with one very key demo: DVCers who have invested huge sums of money to tie themselves to the resort until 2043 or George Bush destroys the planet (whichever comes first).
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I have been reading this topic with great interest but have not brought myself to comment on anything so far. No one can do a fair minded report like Spirit. Of course, I look forward to the day he comes back to WDW after experiencing TDR. That should be "some" trip report from the Spirited one..
