Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I know this is an old post, but I have a current update on which villains to pair up, here they are. I thought about this long and hard. Captain Hook & the Queen of Hearts Jafar & Maleficent Hades & Ursula Amos Slade & Cruella De Vil Destane & Yzma Governor Ratcliffe & Queen Grimhilde Judge Claude Frollo & Lady Tremaine Percival C. McLeach & Madame Medusa Gaston & Drizella Clayton & Anastasia Phantom Blot & Madame Mim Only if the Duchess was in Disney's film adaptation of Lewis Carroll's "Alice in Wonderland", the King of Hearts could be with her, since she is single and not a villain. I do not know who else the King of Hearts could date, but maybe some single queen, someone who is also not a villain. I respect that the King and Queen of Hearts are married, but I have many things to say on this subject. Other favorite pairings of mine include (non-villains): Doc & Flora Happy & Fauna Grumpy & Merryweather Basil & Gadget Once again, I know this is an old post, but I just wanted to give the rest of you my current update. What do the rest of you think? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By basil fan What did Capt. Hook ever do to get stuck with the Queen of Hearts? He's elegant, sophisticated, charming, musical, and can do much better. Ditto Maleficent. I bet she's the female villain who's dance card is always full. I know Cruella looks old, but she was at school with Anita, so she may be too young for Amos. And Anastasia is much too young for Clayton. I'd pair him with her mother. Now Ratcliffe and the Queen could work. He's probably polished enough for her. But she's (almost) the fairest in the land, so he's sure to have some competition. Phantom Blot & Madame Mim? That one made me laugh! It all depends on who, or what he is under that sheet. Percival C. McLeach & Madame Medusa is a possibility. Judge Claude Frollo & Lady Tremaine is your most interesting choice, two of Disney's coldest-hearted villains. But I sure wouldn't want to live in a house with that couple. Brrr! Who is Destane? Gaston would never willingly choose Drizella. He "deserves the best" and wouldn't settle for anything less than a beauty. He's so shallow that looks are all that matters to him, but you won't see him compromise in that department. Disney Trivia Quiz <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/dquiz.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/...uiz.html</a>
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean P.S. I apologize if I responded to your post more than once with the same message, this site is having technical problems. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Since I do not see my earlier post, here it is: "Destane is a sorcerer from the "Aladdin" cartoon series. He was so fearful that even Jafar steered clear of him. I do not know how old he is, but I think he is older than Jafar. Yzma is a sorceress, so I would also pair her up with Jafar (but he is a much better for Maleficent) and the Horned King (except that he is not human). In the Disney comics, the Phantom Blot and Madame Mim were in love with each other, however, in other comics, Madame Mim was in love with Captain Hook, but I nix the idea of Captain Hook and Madame Mim. She might go for him, but he would not go for her. The only villain I would pair Maleficent up with is Jafar. She would also be great for Chernabog or the Horned King, but Jafar and Maleficent are already friends, and they do have many things in common with each other. Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts have many things in common with each other, so this is why I paired them up with each other. Captain Hook would also be great for Queen Grimhilde (except that she might too full of herself for him) or Cruella De Vil (but I am not really comfortable with this pairing). Who else would you pair Captain Hook up with? As for Cruella De Vil, she might be great for Clayton or Percival C. McLeach, but I would rather pair up Percival C. McLeach with Madame Medusa. Who else would Cruella De Vil go great with? The only two other people I can think of are Sykes (since they both smoke, recklessly drive, and cruel to animals), or Edgar the Butler, since "101 Dalmatians" and "the Aristocats" are essentially the canine and feline versions of each other. I really like the pairings of Governor Ratcliffe and Queen Grimhilde, and Judge Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine. I would also pair up Governor Ratcliffe with Lady Tremaine, and Judge Claude Frollo with Queen Grimhilde, but Judge Claude Frollo accuses Esmeralda of witchcraft, and Queen Grimhilde is a sorceress, and Judge Claude Frollo has much more in common with Lady Tremaine than Governor Ratcliffe does. I just paired up Clayton with Anastasia, because I paired up Gaston with Drizella, and Clayton and Anastasia are both snobbish and selfish (despite of Anastasia's altered ways). Lady Tremaine seems too old for Clayton. Gaston would probably go for Queen Grimhilde, but she seems too old for him, and I do not think he is too refined for her. I also think he would get turned off when she turns into a witch (an ugly hag). He might for Drizella, instead, considering she is also vain about her looks and she is also obnoxious, and quite frankly, I do not think Drizella is ugly at all, just because she is an "ugly" stepsister. Well, what are your ideas? Mansioncaribbean"
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I have another possibility. How about Clayton and Cruella De Vil? They are both cruel to animals, and they both are boastful, but unlike Amos Slade, Clayton does not renounce his cruelty to animals, and he and Cruella De Vil are around the same age, maybe. Clayton is also much older than Anastasia is, so this would fit. As for Anastasia, I am not sure who to pair her up with, if Gaston and Drizella would make a good pair, maybe another villain who is also vain about his looks, but is around the same age as Anastasia. If Clayton and Cruella De Vil should not go together, because there would be a better choice for Cruella, then I do not know who else to pair her up with; Percival C. McLeach is already with Madame Medusa, and Sykes would not possibly be a good choice, since he is not erratic, like say Cruella De Vil. Edgar would also be a good candidate, but she might get turned off his by poor traits for being a villain. As for Captain Hook and Cruella De Vil, this would be an interesting pair, but the villain Captain Hook has the most things in common with is the Queen of Hearts. I am sorry, I just cannot see any other person for Captain Hook, and I know the Queen of Hearts is already taken, but the King of Hearts should go jump in a lake. Any other ideas? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By basil fan Anastasia is only around 18 years old. How about one of the Willie Brothers? They're dumb and she's desperate: what a match! If she and her sister can find a friend, they can triple date. Cruella is so ugly and unpleasant, it's hard to find her a husband. She is rich, though, so a fortune-hunter might be interested. ANy man who could keep her in furs would be her cup of tea, I think. (In the original book, she has a husband, a furrier. He's not a villain or anything. If I remember correctly, he is a mousy type of man.) Don't forget Alameda Slim as a prospective beau. He could serenade a girl and maybe win her heart. Rourke is also a pretty eligible older bachelor. Edgar would look for someone with refined manners, not a crude woman like Cruella or Medusa or their ilk. If you don't think Drizella is ugly, more power to ya. I think Gaston would only go after the raving beauties. He'd probably make a pass at Helga, but she'd break his arm. Gilligan's Island <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/glitch/giglitch.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/...tch.html</a>
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I cannot imagine Drizella or Anastasia with the Willie Brothers at all, and Cinderella is not a villain, Drizella and Anastasia are. If Gaston and Drizella do not find chemistry in each other, and Clayton is too old for Anastasia, I can imagine the two sisters going for Horace and Jasper Badun. I do not know how old Horace and Jasper are, but they do not look that old. Besides, Drizella and Anastasia are sisters, and Horace and Jasper are brothers. I also considered Gaston going for Helga Sinclair, but I think she might get turned off by his vanity. I know, Queen Grimhilde is also vain about her appearance, but she is too old for Gaston, and is much more elegant than Gaston is, and her transformation into a witch might turn him off. I also cannot imagine the evil Queen being with any other man who is below a role of a king or of the like, thus I paired her up with Captain Hook, Governor Ratcliffe, Judge Claude Frollo, the Horned King, Emperor Shan-Yu, etc. However, the Horned King is not human, though he is also a grotesquely evil sorcerer monarch; Judge Claude Frollo would accuse Queen Grimhilde of witchcraft, since she is a witch; Emperor Shan-Yu seems very tall and superficial for Queen Grimhilde; thus, I paired Governor Ratcliffe up with her. Captain Hook could also be a good candidate, but Governor Ratcliffe seems like a much better possibility, since he is as refined and stuck up as Queen Grimhilde is, and Governor Ratcliffe looks and acts a lot like Gaston, so it seems rather perfect. Anyway, I am also aware that it is possible that Gaston may not fall for Drizella, but in a "House of Mouse" episode, I saw Gaston and Ursula sitting a table together, so if Gaston can be with someone, such as Ursula, he can fall for someone like Drizella, plus as I already mentioned, Drizella is also obnoxious and vain about her looks, and Gaston is actually not that smart, so it fits. Gaston did try to fight the Beast after all. As for Cruella De Vil, I cannot imagine Lyle T. Rourke for her at all, they have nothing in common with each other, and as you mentioned, Alameda Slim seems too old for her, plus Alameda Slim did renounce his cruelty to animals. Clayton, on the other hand, did not renounce his cruelty to animals, he seems the same age as Cruella, he is not vain about his looks, and he seems rich. Alameda Slim does not seem that rich, but who knows, Cruella might fall for Alameda Slim, despite the differences. They do share a cruelty to animals, after all. I could also imagine Captain Hook falling for Cruella De Vil, but she would probably be too full of herself for him, and Captain Hook is handsome and pleasant, whereas Cruella De Vil is ugly and unpleasant, though she is a cool villain. Captain Hook would probably fall for Queen Grimhilde or the Queen of Hearts, instead, but as I already said Governor Ratcliffe is already with the evil Queen and the villain Captain Hook has the most things in common with is the Queen of Hearts. I also know that Madame Mim did fall for Captain Hook in the Disney comics, but I do not think the two would make an interesting pair, Madame Mim would probably be better with the Phantom Blot, since she was also in love with him. I also considered Governor Ratcliffe with the Queen of Hearts, since they are both fat, pompous, bad tempered old tyrants, but Governor Ratcliffe does not share the volatile personality that Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts both share, and "Peter Pan" and "Alice in Wonderland" are similar movies. Stromboli could also be a candiate, since he is also fat, but he is much more of a villain than the Queen of Hearts is, but anyway. I still hold by my other choices. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By basil fan >Cinderella is not a villain Never said she was. Lighten up, dude. This is supposed to be fun, not brain surgery. >but Governor Ratcliffe does not share the volatile personality that Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts both share Two volatile personalities do not necessarily make a good match. Sometimes a volatile personality needs a calming presence to balance his or her weaknesses. Nobody in his right mind could fall for the Queen of Hearts.
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I know, this is supposed to be for fun, but I think it is essential for a villain to be paired up with another villain, otherwise there would be much conflict, plus Drizella and Anastasia dislike Cinderella by any means, so they probably would not like her joining in to date the Willie Brothers. You do have a point about volatile personalities, but I have always considered that despite the fact that Captain Does have a volatile personality, he has a very calm trait that the Queen of Hearts does not possess. Maybe this is a reason why the volatile Queen of Hearts married the calm King of Hearts. If it holds true that no other character would marry the Queen of Hearts, then who can Captain Hook have? He does need a love interest, after all. Cruella De Vil is already with Clayton or Amos Slade, and Queen Grimhilde is already with Governor Ratcliffe. There must be someone out there for him. Please keep in mind that all of the Disney villains have some amount of unhealthy pride, so opposites attracting does not necessarily apply here, since all of the villains would confide in a villain very identical to them. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean By the way, I was searching on the Internet, I saw a Disney pin-pic, which has Jafar (and Iago), Maleficent, Captain Hook, and the Queen of Hearts having a Thanksgiving dinner together. I also saw a picture of Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts together at the mix and mingle villains party, someone also posted a you-tube video of Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts dancing together at a Disney theme park. I do not want to read too much into this, but it sounds like Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts have a thing for each other. It is a shame, too, since she is married. Once again, I do not want to make a big thing out of this, but it interesting. However; I did see a picture of Cruella De Vil putting her arms around Judge Claude Frollo in front of the Disney castle, so maybe it was just a fling, or a thing for fun. Additionally, I know I am obsessing over which villains to pair up with each other, but this is very interesting to me, and after I saw Jafar and Maleficent together in a "House of Mouse" episode, I wanted to pair up the other villains ever since. Mansioncaribbean P.S. It is also quite ironic to me that Disney did not pair up any other villains, although in a "House of Mouse", the Beast and Cruella De Vil sat a table together, and in another episode, the Beast in his human form and the evil Queen were sitting together. Maleficent was also paired up with Chernabog and Hades in other episodes; Captain Hook even made a pass at her. Madame Mim was also in love with Captain Hook and the Phantom Blot in the Disney comics.
Originally Posted By basil fan And Mortimer tried to get a date with the Tremaine sisters. But they weren't quite that desperate. (Cruella only loved Beast for his fur)
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I never saw that episode, but I know what episode you are talking about. Mortimer Mouse also tried to get a date with the Queen of Hearts and Madame Mim, but neither of those went well, either. However, the only pairing that really counted were Maleficent's dates (Jafar, Hades, and Chernabog, and somewhat Captain Hook (though that one was not a date per say)). If Cruella De Vil loved the Beast only for his fur, then she would be great for a rich, unattractive, and unpleasant hunter, since some animals have fur. The only two people I recommend are Clayton and Amos Slade. She might also like dating Captain Hook, but they do not have much in common with each other, and he deserves better, probably I might offend, much better. I do not have an idea who Captain Hook would probably go for the most, though. The only villain I can think of is the Queen of Hearts, since she is practically a female version of him, except that she is fat and married. Queen Grimhilde would probably be too interested in herself for him. Cruella De Vil would probably be a better choice, but she is unattractive and unpleasant, and she is also too full of herself, but then again so is Captain Hook. Additionally, Madame Mim was in love with Captain Hook in the Disney comics, but I do not think he was in love with her, I do not know I never read the Disney comics, I just heard about them, and there is the thing with Madame Mim also falling for the Phantom Blot. It is too bad there is not a new villain, who would be as perfect for Captain Hook, as Jafar is for Maleficent, or Hades is for Ursula. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean What about Lyle T. Rourke and Anastasia? That seems like a good pair. I never saw "Atlantis: the Lost Empire", but Lyle and Anastasia seem around the same age. I still think Gaston and Drizella deserve each other. If Gaston deserves better, such as Helga Sinclair, then Kronk could go with Drizella, but I like Gaston and Drizella more, because they are both obnoxious and vain about their looks. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Here is another one. What about Governor Ratcliffe and Cruella De Vil? They are both unpleasant, and they both covet money. They both even have a cruelty towards nature. Governor Ratcliffe has a dog, but he has a gun, which associates with hunting, and Cruella De Vil has a cruelty towards animals. Since Governor Ratcliffe does have a gun, he can easily get fur for Cruella De Vil, since she is fascinated with the Beast in a "House of Mouse" episode. Governor Ratcliffe is also very similar in appearance and personality to Captain Hook, Claton, and Gaston, three villains who others alternatively pair up with Cruella De Vil. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By basil fan Rourke is a pretty old guy. At least, compared to the stepsisters, who are only about 18-20. Watch Atlantis. Don;t put too much stock in anything you see in House of Mouse. i love the show, but continuity is not its strong point. On one ep, they show young Bambi sitting with adult Miss Bunny. Guilty! The Disney Villains <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/villain.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/...ain.html</a>
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean They show young Bambi with Miss Bunny? I do not think I saw that episode, but (shudders). I honestly do not know who would go great with the stepsisters then. I do not like the idea of the stepsisters and the Willie Brothers, because they are not villains, there are three, and the stepsisters do not like Cinderella. Maybe Drizella can date Kronk, Anastasia can have Lefou, and Gaston can go with Helga. If Helga would not go for Gaston, maybe Gaston can have Drizella, since I cannot imagine anyone else for him, and they do have more things in common with each other. Anastasia could still date Kronk or Lefou. Now, let us see, that leaves Captain Hook, the Queen of Hearts, Queen Grimhilde, Cruella De Vil, Clayton, and Governor Ratcliffe. I do not know about them, but I will think of something. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By basil fan The Willie Brothers *are* villains. Really, really dumb villains. The Ballad of Gilligan's Trial <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/etc/gilligan.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/...gan.html</a>
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Oh, they are villains? I really did not know that. In that case, pair up Drizella and Anastasia with two of the Willie Brothers, and Helga Sinclair with the third one, or some other villain around the same age as Drizella and Anastasia. Not every villain needs to be paired up with someone, I guess. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Here are some other possibilites: Captain Hook & Maleficent Jafar & Shakata (Shakata is the witch from the "Aladdin" cartoon episode, "the Witches of the Sand"; she is a lot like Jafar, excluding the bird companion, the sorcerer staff, and turning into a gigantic creature in a battle with the hero) Governor Ratcliffe & Lady Tremaine (I do not like this pair as much as Judge Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine, considering Frollo and Lady Tremaine have much more in common with each other than Ratcliffe and Tremaine do, but some Disney fans like this pairing) Judge Claude Frollo & Queen Grimhilde (refer to the previous, but I do not like this pairing, because Judge Claude Frollo accuses Esmeralda of witchcrfadt, and Queen Grimhilde is a sorceress) Any ideas? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean If no one bothers me asking, what are some same sex pairs, for anyone who is gay or anyone who does not mind people who are gay, can think of? Here are my votes. Captain Hook and Jafar Queen Grimhilde and Maleficent King of Hearts and Mad Hatter Judge Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine Judge Claude Frollo and Jafar Queen Grimhilde and Lady Tremaine Lady Tremaine and Maleficent Gaston and Clayton (despite age) Captain Hook and Governor Ratcliffe Can you guys think of any more? Mansioncaribbean
