Originally Posted By FerretAfros "...same sex pairs...Judge Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine" So which of them is not really their real gender? Are we just assuming that they're both transgender (or whatever the PC term is at this exact moment in time)? They have similar fashion sense, so I can see where they might get along, but I'm not so sure they count as a same-sex couple. : )
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Oops, I meant Judge Claude Frollo and Governor Ratcliffe, sorry. Wow, that would be funny, though. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Here are some more ideas: The King of Hearts and Cruella De Vil (In the original "101 Dalmatians" story, Cruella De Vil has a small, weak, and henpecked husband, who strives in pleasing his wife. The King of Hearts is a small, weak, and henpecked husband, who strives to please his wife. It is an excellent match, and the King of Hearts is well, a king, so he is probably very rich, this fits very well with Cruella De Vil having a big amount of money. There is also the thing with Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts.) Rico and Anastasia (Rico from "Home on the Range") is around the same age as Anastasia is, and he is also very full of himself, he also seems moronic and desperate; Gaston and Drizella still seem like a good match) Lucifer and Felicia Chesire Cat and Pom Pom Chernabog and Demona Prince John and Zira Fat Cat and Trudy (Pete's original girlfriend) The Horned King and Yzma (I prefer Destane and Yzma, because they are both sorcerers, and the Horned King is not human, but this match is cool, too) What do you think? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I have also been thinking Governor Ratcliffe might be a better candidate for Lady Tremaine than Judge Claude Frollo is, and Judge Claude Frollo might be a better candidate for Queen Grimhilde than Governor Ratcliffe is. It is true Judge Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine have more things in common with each other than Governor Ratcliffe and Lady Tremaine do, and Governor Ratcliffe and Queen Grimhilde have more things in common with each other than Governor Ratcliffe and Lady Tremaine do, but still. They still have chemistry. I also know that since Governor Ratcliffe has a dog and Lady Tremaine has a cat that might get in the way, and Judge Claude Frollo does not approve of witchcraft (Queen Grimhilde is a witch), but maybe those things would not matter. Anyway, what do the rest of you think? I would love to hear suggestions. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean O-k, I just found out that Demona is already interested in Goliath, so she cannot date Chernabog. I think Chernabog will be o-k alone, sorry Chernabog. Prince John and Zira also cannot date, Zira is married to Scar. Yzma should also stick with Destane, considering the Horned King is not human, and Destane and Yzma both are. Regarding Governor Ratcliffe and Judge Claude Frollo, this is a tough one. Governor Ratcliffe has more things in common with Queen Grimhilde than he does with Lady Tremaine, but the chemistry is there. Similarly, Judge Claude Frollo has more things in common with Lady Tremaine than he does with Queen Grimhilde, but the chemistry is there, and I nix this idea, because Queen Grimhilde is a witch, and Judge Claude Frollo disapproves of witchcraft, though Esmeralda is not actually a witch, and Queen Grimhilde is, so it would probably be different. Anyway, does anyone have any more ideas, or is this good enough? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean O-k, I decided to take each of the villainesses and pair them with up with a male contestant. Here is the list - Anastasia: Rico Cruella De Vil: Percival C. McLeach; Captain Hook; Clayton; The King of Hearts (why not? Cruella has a husband just like him the original "101 Dalmatians" book, so their relationship would most likely be akin) Drizella: (Does Rico have a friend?) (I did want to pair Drizella up with Gaston, since they are both obnoxious and vain about their looks, but I do not know if someone like Gaston would go for someone like Drizella, appearance wise, but even though Drizella is an "ugly" step-sister, she is not so ugly in appearance) Lady Tremaine: Judge Claude Frollo; Governor Ratcliffe Madame Medusa: Percival C. McLeach; Sykes Madame Mim: The Phantom Blot; Captain Hook Maleficent: Jafar; Hades; Captain Hook; Chernabog; the Horned King Queen Grimhilde: Judge Claude Frollo; Emperor Shan-Yu; the Horned King; Captain Hook; Governor Ratcliffe Queen of Hearts: Captain Hook (I do not think it would bother Captain Hook that she is fat or married for that matter, she is irascible yet elegant (always flamboyant) just like he is, and he can be much more suave than she can be, so the relationship would probably be balanced); Governor Ratcliffe; Stromboli Ursula: Hades; Jafar; the Coach Man Yzma: The Horned King; Jafar; Destane (a sorcerer from the "Aladdin" T.V. show, not much is known about him, but Mozenrath temporary worked for him and Destane was so fearful even Jafar was afraid of him) I know this is bringing back an old thread, but this has to be interesting to someone else, other than just me. Well, what do the rest of you think about these pairings? What are your ideas? Please share your ideas if you have any. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By Bellella Villain pair-ups- here we go! Gaston with Snow White's evil Queen stepmother- both have swollen heads and vanity problems. Judge Claude Frollo with Lady Tremaine. Captain Hook with Cruella DeVil Queen of Hearts with King of Hearts- hello! Already married! Ursula with Hades Jafar with Maleficent Trigger-happy Amos Slade with trigger-happy Madame Medusa. Let's hope they kill each other. Yzma with Clayton Madam Mim with Prince John- both are spoiled brats. Horned King with any one of the Three Fates in Hercules. Anastasia and Drizella with Horace and Jasper, the Badun Brothers. Si and Am with Lucifer and Sabor Gideon with Felicia Who the heck is Queen Grimhilde? Does the bitchy evil Queen have a name like that?
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean "Jafar and Maleficent" "Hades and Ursula" "Judge Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine" (I love these pairings) "Clayton and Yzma" "The Horned King and one of the fates from "Hercules"" (wow, I did not realize anyone else even wanted to consider these pairings, wow, you learn something new day, good choices mate, and to note which fate, the Horned King should go with Lachesis (undead, unworldly, mean, eyeless), the tallest and snobbiest of the three fates, she is also the one with the longest nose, maybe the other two fates can go with two of Maleficent's goons) "Drizella and Anastasia with the Badun brothers" (Interesting choice, but Horace and Jasper are way too old for Cinderella's stepsisters, the stepsisters need someone their own ages (let us realize that Lady Tremaine may not approve), this is why I think Drizella should go with Gaston (vain about their looks, obnoxious), and Anastasia should go with Rico from "Home on the Range") "Gaston with Snow White's evil Queen stepmother- both have swollen heads and vanity problems." (Why does everyone want to pair up Gaston with the evil Queen? Yes, they are both vain, and Gaston is a huntsman (the Queen has a huntsman for a servant), but the evil Queen is too old for Gaston, and is much more elegant than Gaston is, there is also the witch transformation, that might turn Gaston off, I really think the evil Queen should stick with someone her own speed, anyone who would not rank below a king, I nominate Judge Claude Frollo (but he is perfect for Lady Tremaine) or Governor Ratcliffe, or maybe even Emperor Shan-Yu. Gaston should stick with Drizella, and you know, Drizella may be an "ugly" stepsister, but she is not that ugly). "Trigger-happy Amos Slade with trigger-happy Madame Medusa. Let's hope they kill each other." (Why not?) "Madam Mim with Prince John- both are spoiled brats." (Human and lion? I do not know. Maybe Madame Mim can turn herself into a lioness, but maybe Mr. Winky (the judge from "the Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad") might be a better choice, but hey, to each their own; also to note, Madame Mim was in love with the Phantom Blot in the Disney comics, and other times with Captain Hook, but she and Mr. Winky might be more interesting) "Si and Am with Lucifer and Sabor" (No, Sabor is a tiger, and I am not trying to sound homophobic, I am not by any means, but do you realize that Si, Am, and Lucifer are all males, right?) "Gideon with Felicia" (Yes, it could work, but Felicia might be better for Lucifer, and I know Lucifer dated Pom Pom in "Cinderella II", but they dumped each other, so yeah, and Pom Pom could always go with the Chesire Cat) Queen Grimhilde is the name given to the evil Queen in the Disney comics. Now, here is my thing about Captain Hook, Cruella De Vil, the Queen of Hearts, and the King of Hearts, let me go into detail: Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts are essentially the male and female versions of each other (they have much more similarities than Captain Hook and Cruella De Vil do), and Cruella De Vil has a small, weak, mousy, and henpecked in the original "101 Dalmatians" story, and the King of Hearts is already a small, weak, mousy, and henpecked husband, so the relationship would be familiar. Additionally, Cruella might go for a man in power, and the King might go for a less irascible woman. I also realize the Queen and Captain Hook both have hot-tempered issues, but Captain Hook can be much more suave than the Queen can be, and maybe the reason why the Queen is always so irritable is because her husband always wants to do trials instead of just going with beheading others from the start. As for the Queen already being married, the adultery thing should not be a problem. I saw two you-tube videos, one of the Villains Mix and Mingle Party located at a Disney theme park, in that video, people dressed up as the villains, and during that party, Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts danced with each other, but Captain Hook did later dance with Maleficent. The other video is of guest members dressing up as Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts at a Disney theme park dancing alone to the tune of "once upon a dream" from "Sleeping Beauty." I also saw this pin-pic, which is of Jafar (and Iago), Maleficent, Captain Hook, and the Queen of Hearts eating a Thanksgiving dinner. I have pictures of the pin-pic and videos, if you want to see them. Now, I know these pickings are your opinions, so I need to respect them, but I think if we all could put our heads together, we could come up with very great ideas. Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By basil fan Actually, I can't find any true reference telling if Si and Am are male or female. They are voiced by a woman, but that is not an absolute guide. I think of them as female simply because there are so few girl pets in film. Basil of Baker Street <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/basil/bakerst.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/...rst.html</a>
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Si and Am being voiced by a woman does not mean anything to me. A woman voiced both Flotsam and Jetsam, if I remember correctly, and they are both males. Additionally, I think according to "Mickey's House of Villains", they are males, and also to note, there are some females who have voiced male characters in animation, and vie, so I see your point, but it is not that strong enough for me. So, what are the best pairs so far? We have: Jafar and Maleficent Hades and Ursula Judge Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine The Horned King and Lachesis (a fate from "Hercules") What are the others? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Sabor is a leopard? O-k, well that settles that, but I am still stuck on which villain pairings we should go with, my choices are: Captain Hook & the Queen of Hearts Jafar & Maleficent Hades & Ursula The King of Hearts & Cruella De Vil Judge Claude Frollo & Lady Tremaine Percival C. McLeach & Madame Medusa Gaston & Drizella Others: Yen Sid & Madame Mim The Horned King & one of the Fates Fat Cat & Trudy (Pete's original girlfriend) I think Clayton should go with Yzma, but I am not entirely sure. I do not know who would be best for the evil Queen. Nominates include Judge Claude Frollo, Governor Ratcliffe, Emperor Shan-Yu, and the Horned King. Maybe Governor Ratcliffe and Lady Tremaine would make a better pair, I do not know. I do not know who would be best for Anastasia, Cinderella's red-haired step sister. I nominate Rico, the bounty hunter from "Home on the Range", same age, same snobbish personality, but I am iffy about that one for some reason. Thoughts? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I have another pairing: Dr. Facilier and Yzma Now, I have not watched "the Princess and the Frog" yet, I do not know if it is currently in theaters, I do not keep up with the releases anymore, but from what I do know, Dr. Facilier and Yzma both use magic, and I have seen pictures of Dr. Facilier. He appears to be a man as old and mean as Jafar is, so it fits, and I do not think Dr. Facilier would not mind dating someone as old as Yzma is, so yeah. She might also not have any problem dating him, but maybe I can find out more about him when I see the movie. Anyway, what do you think, and does anyone have any more suggestions? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean Out of curiosity, does anyone know Bruce W. Smith (the animator of Dr. Facilier, the villain from "the Princess and the Frog") based the design of Dr. Facilier on both Captain Hook and Cruella De Vil? That, and a few other reasons, is an obvious reason why the two villains should be together. Maybe they do deserve with each other. I still think Captain Hook and the Queen of Hearts should date, since they always strongly remind me of each other, but she is already married, but who knows. Anything is possible. I also still wonder if Dr. Facilier and Yzma would be a good match. They both are similar to Cruella, design and personality wise, and they both love dark magic. Does anyone agree? Mansioncaribbean
Originally Posted By mansioncaribbean I also just found that out today (about Bruce W. Smith) by the way, but I just thought I would share. Mansioncaribbean
