Originally Posted By Sara Tonin Okey-doke, I don't like the way Mormons live, think, believe... so being a citizen of California I'm going to outlaw the practice of baptism of the dead...creeps me out...and I think I'll organize a group to outlaw that practice...think I'll start in Utah, because that's where the headquarters of that crazy stuff is located...and it should be perfectly alright for me to influence the vote there...right? But no I wouldn't really do that because it would be wrong to influence the laws of another state or persecute people who want to live that way...wouldn't it?
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"">>>"Yes the Mormon's view of their "Sacred" marriages is that it should only be between a man & a women...or 2...or 3...or 6...or 10."<<< And yet another person lacking correct info" kozy, are you truly denying the fact that polygamy was a part of Mormon tradition? It was an article of faith...just because you're in denial doesn't make the facts go away."<<< That statement that I was responding to was written in present tense not past-did you miss that? And just for your info-polygamy was never an Article of Faith then or now. Gotta get your facts right. If you want to know what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints' Articles of Faith are, you can find that info at www.lds.org.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"But no I wouldn't really do that because it would be wrong to influence the laws of another state or persecute people who want to live that way...wouldn't it?..."<<< Then I guess while you are at it you might want to also keep those that live in other states AND countries that sent money for the NO campaign to cease that kind of action as well in the future. Afterall, "it would be wrong to influence the laws of another state..."
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin you're so full of cr#p...yes I know it was in the past....don't be so condescending...my point is and was that the history of your "religion" isn't so milky white...and if your people condoned it in the past, what gives them the right to dictate morality to ANYONE else? On the lighter side, I used to have a close friend who was an escapee from the Mormon cult...he used to joke about printing a publication called...More on Mormons...
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin I've not heard of any one organization having started a campaign to influence the no on h8. So now, you're just making stuff up, aren't you. Shame on you.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin Oh, that's right... your guy was just wandering in the woods when suddenly the Lord appeared to him...right...so your "organization" has been making it all up the whole time.
Originally Posted By dlkozy You got caught putting inaccurate info out there and now you have your knickers in a knot and are pitching a fit. Shame on you.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin <LOL! If you can't put accurate info out there-don't post!> Funny...I was writing the same thing to you
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin You're are just too brainwashed to get it aren't you? A truly enlightened person would be able to recognize when they were wrong and be able to admit it..I feel sorry for you.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains <<>>>" but they are Mormons - They follow the book of Mormon -"<<< No, they are not. They do not call themselves Mormon>> Your right they call themselves Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints And what do you call yourself - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints So what is the difference? Really? Both groups believe they were started by the same Prophet - The primary difference I see is that the FLDS believes that their leader was selected to be the next prophet (well actually his father was) while you don't believe it to be their leader - but your leader was the actual prophet. Also the FDLS has not evolved with the changes that the rest of the country has - which with some resistance the LDS eventually did.
Originally Posted By dlkozy Show me the inaccuracies of what I have posted. I have shown you yours-too bad you are not "enlightened" enough to admit when you are wrong. LOL!
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin You can't and haven't supported any of your "facts". You are just so pitiful, I will pray for you.
Originally Posted By dlkozy gottaluv-this info has been played out on the boards again and again. You are not really interested in knowing just stirring-that has already been proven. But, that's not what the topic is-is it.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"You can't and haven't supported any of your "facts". You are just so pitiful, I will pray for you."<<< Still waiting.
Originally Posted By ecdc dlkozy, I've pointed out your disingenuous attempt at separating the fundamentalists from Mormonism and I've cited evidence along the way. You keep lashing out at those who aren't LDS and aren't as familiar with Mormonism, but you've conveniently ignored those of us who are familiar (moreso than you) with it. You can nitpick over statements that are technically incorrect (polygamy is not an article of faith) but it doesn't change the facts. Brigham Young said polygamy is essential and the highest order of heaven. Joseph Smith married several women and kept it from Emma. Mormonism's definition of marriage has changed, period.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Hmm seems like a blanket responce to me - I only copied what you said a couple pages back. The fact is your church campaigned from another state to take away a minority groups rights. I have no problem with people contributing to a campaign that they feel strongly about supporting for either side... BUT for a Church that was at one time persecuting for their own practices regarding marriage - to actively and publicly campaign... spreading lies and fear to get what they believe to be the way things should be is just wrong. Church and State issues are separate for a reason - and your religous beliefs have no business in a state issue.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"You keep lashing out at those who aren't LDS and aren't as familiar with Mormonism, but you've conveniently ignored those of us who are familiar (moreso than you) with it."<<< Stating a difference of opinion and you or anyone else not agreeing with what is written is not lashing out-but that has been pointed out to you by others before. >>>"You can nitpick over statements that are technically incorrect (polygamy is not an article of faith) but it doesn't change the facts..."<< That statement was not just technically incorrect-it was totally incorrect. Change what facts? >>>"but you've conveniently ignored those of us who are familiar (moreso than you) with it. "<<< Really? You know nothing about what I know-and to say so differently is more than presumptuous on your part.
