Originally Posted By mele Fair enough...but what kind of church intentionally craps all over the families of people who do not want this? Aren't all of the things we do for the dead really for their survivors? So, for the people this insults...it's rude to them. And, for the people who do this for their own family members, it's really just a form of massive narcissism. They can take their "hate the sin, love the sinner" need do whatever they think is best for ME and cram it. They're not happy to pad their membership numbers with the names of ex-members who are alive; nope, they've got to steal the names of the dead, too. Again, I don't think what they're doing really matters...but it's a dick move. And if there's one thing we like discussing in WE, it's the dick moves of others.
Originally Posted By disneyfreaksk God grants us free agency to choose. Do you really think he would take that away when we pass from this life on earth?
Originally Posted By mele If I don't want to spend time with Mormons on Earth, why would I want to spend Eternity with them?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<God grants us free agency to choose.>> Only if you have six or more years of major league service on the team's 40-man roster and are not under contract for the following season. There is ALWAYS fine print...
Originally Posted By mele This has me wondering...do Mormons EVER stop ringing my damn doorbell, no matter what plane of existence I'm on? Geesh.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Mele...are you sure that your not confusing them with Johovah Witness? Funny story...there is a lady that lives in my apartment complex that is of the Jehovah Witness influence. She was briskly heading over toward my front porch to lay a little "witness" on me when she tripped on an uneven sidewalk out front and fell on her face. I just chuckled (after I saw she was alright) and said, I think Jehovah is trying to tell you not to waste your time on this one.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I'm sure she is talking about Mormons. They are easy to tell apart from Jehovah's Witnesses. Better dressed, less obnoxious and no "Watchtower" to hand out.
Originally Posted By disneyfreaksk I have many friends of many denominations (including "Mormons"). Every person has value no matter race, religion or age... Stereotyping is not fair and you sure miss out on a lot of cool people by judging them.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Stereotyping is not fair and you sure miss out on a lot of cool people by judging them.<< Mormons: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R7lP_0DxBw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lP_0DxBw</a> Jehovah's Witnesses: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Q80mk7bxE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...80mk7bxE</a>
Originally Posted By mele We've had them both come to our door (well, before my FIL scared them all away. He's quite "delightful".) I don't want ANYONE walking up to my door and bothering me. My dogs go NUTS when people come to the door. I pretty much hate you if you ring my doorbell and that's not even taking into account how pissed I am that you ignored my "no soliciting, no campaigning and no prosthelytizing" sign. I don't think it's stereotyping to call them Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses when they come to my door and try to sell me their religion. Especially when they won't take no for an answer and keep talking while I am shutting the door. Again, individual Mormons are fine. Lots of them are good people. The same can be said of the entire population. It doesn't mean that they don't do wrong things and I happen to disagree with many of the major tenents of the LDS. If that's stereotyping then so be it. I guess they're doing quite a bit of stereotyping of others, themselves and missing out on a lot.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Right-wing Fundamentalist Christians: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYOV8uu17t0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...V8uu17t0</a>
Originally Posted By Labuda <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MSGBOARD-T-122934-P-1.ASP" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/MS...-P-1.ASP</a>
Originally Posted By Labuda Trippy, you forgot the word racist in your description of the featured performer in the above-linked video. but, I'll say this: he's got cojones in SPADES. In SAN ANTONIO he had the cojones to say "if you don't speak English, get the F out of my country." Unbelievable.
Originally Posted By u k fan To be honest, I'm not bothered about that site and I'm fairly confident my sister wouldn't be either. Despite being born into the Mormon faith I have a brother who is gay so we are pretty liberal Mormon family. By brother and his husband used to run a gay pub so from birth my sister grew up around gays and lesbians, it wouldn't be even the slightest issue to her. (I wonder truthfully if it's just a random name generator anyway). I think my point is that two wrongs don't make a right, particularly if one of those wrongs is a lame attempt at humor. I haven't been active at church since I was about 13. I have never done baptisms for the dead or even fully understand them other than the basics, but (and I realise this is controversial) to the best of my knowledge they are done with good intentions. This site was an attempt to pour scorn on a religious practice so is the opposite.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Apparently, Anne Frank was recently baptised as a Mormon. But Stephen Colbert just converted all of the dead Mormons to Judaism, so it's fine now.
Originally Posted By Labuda IT was the 9th time she's been baptised post-mortem per the reports, Tom. Don't forget that - NINE times. I guess Mormons are like cats and get nine lives?
Originally Posted By mele And Simon Wiesenthal's parents, too. Honestly, I don't think the church as a *whole* is still baptizing holocaust victims unrelated to Mormons. I do wonder, however, why they can't program their baptism computer program(s) to not accept certain names.
Originally Posted By u k fan As I said above, I don't know the ins and outs, but I see no reason why people can't put themselves or their deceased loved ones on a list that says "thanks, but no thanks". I kind of feel that if God loves us he can find a way in the afterlife to sort it out anyway. Like in Aladdin when the Sultan changes the rules at the end!!!
Originally Posted By mele Ha! I read this on another discussion board. (I'm cheating you guys.) "I like to think of Anne Frank and all of the other proxy-baptized Holocaust victims receiving their "Congratulations, you can now become a Mormon!" notice in the afterlife and throwing it right in the heavenly trashcan, along with the 1/2 price pizza coupons and flyers for aluminum siding."
