Most Underrated Film?

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    Originally Posted By TheRedhead

    Treasure Planet in IMAX was amazing. I think it's the way it SHOULD be seen, though I guess it's lucky to be seen at all.

    My only problem with the movie is the first ten minutes. It's slow and clunky getting started and the jokes just fall flat. But the second Long John Silver shows up, the movie just hits another level, and never lets up.

    And maybe I'm the minority, but I love that song. It's very atypical for Disney, but for me it just strikes the perfect chord. It reminds me of "When Somebody Loved Me" from Toy Story 2.
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    I think the song's great!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By Route66

    Has anybody said Atlantis yet? I really like Atlantis.. It was like an animated epic. However the characters were so mismatched, it was like they were designed for different movies and thrown into one. Especially that Helga character, she was right out of Dick Tracy or Sin City. However I can easily see past all that stuff and I love that movie, OH! And it has a beautiful transformation scene, I love Disney Transformation scenes.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Hmmmm, I have to say that I adore Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Brother Bear, Hunchback and Tarzan, more than most of the Disney films ever created!

    The only highly rated films of Disney I prefer to those are Beauty and the Beast and Lion King (so yes, I prefer the latest batch to anything made when Walt Disney was alive!)
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    Looks like all the recent crummy ones have gotten at least one vote.

    Except Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons. Brrrr.
     
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    Originally Posted By Route66

    Dinosaur and The Wild too I guess. I believe that Dinosaur is the best out of all the Disney CGI stuff.. Its was very inovative and there still hasn't been anything like it. Jury's out on Bolt.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>Dinosaur and The Wild too I guess.<<

    And Valiant! If The Wild is in, then so is Valiant.

    We shall pretend that Return to Neverland and other such miscarriages of justice do not exist.

    (PS - I would say that The Wild was underrated, insofar as it was fair, and not horrendous like so many reviewers said it was.)

    (PSS - Valiant sucked eggs. See what I did there?)
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Oh, I really like meet the Robinsons, and Chicken Little is funny in parts. I didn't mind the Wild and I thought Dinosaur was very clever.
     
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    Originally Posted By LindsayC

    Although I’ve never seen them as underrated Hunchback and Pocahontas are in my top 5 - Overall I think I preferred the films post Lion King up to ENG (I can’t be bothered to spell that out!). I’ve just finished an interview piece for the next issue of Tales with Stephen Schwartz and he was very candid about both films he worked on, it was quite enlightening!

    Hercules was very much a product of the time but I loved Scarfe’s style.

    Of the earlier films - I saw Sword and the Stone again recently - my that’s a strange one - almost two or three films in one.

    Most underrated overall: Rescuers Down Under. As The Redhead said - Marahute’s flight is amongst the best pieces of animation ever - and the Joanna and egg sequence is my favourite sidekick moment.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    I'd agree on The Rescuers Down Under - it is a near-perfect feature. The characters are wonderful - especially Joanna and Frank. The screenplay shows Joe Ranft's comic touch - the comic setpieces like Joanna's egg stealing scene and the Doctor's surgery are genius. And Mike Gabriel and Hendel Butoy's direction is flawless. The screenplay was wonderful and brought the talented Karey Kirkpatrick to Disney. To me it was the real start of the second Golden Age of animation.

    Route66 - I would agree on Atlantis too. I thought it was a visually stunning movie but I thought that it tried to accomplish too much - it is a difficult balance act between character- and plot-driven features and it tried to deliver on both. I liked Joss Whedon's (Buffy and Angel) sci-fi touches to the story but overall it felt like a typical Tab Murphy screenplay - a little cumbersome and clunky. I loved the marketing campaign too.

    I've always loved Alice in Wonderland and I don't think it gets the credit it deserves. The characterizations are so appealing to me.

    I'd also add Fantasia 2000 to the list. To me it was a far superior movie to the first one (which despite certain wonderful elements has the tendency to send me to sleep) - every single vignette is wonderful and the conclusion - the Firebird Suite - is probably the finest animated short in history.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    The Wild and Valiant weren't Disney features so I wouldn't even contemplate adding them. Valiant is produced by Vanguard Animation - who thankfully took their inferior product elsewhere for subsequent releases - Happily N'ever After and Space Chimps.

    Dick Cook was looking to buy animated features when the company's own WDFA was heading south - fast. It didn't work and that model has been ditched.

    Thankfully I've not seen either of them.

    If we are adding DTV features too - I would say that there have been more successful features than most fans will admit. I finally saw Return to Neverland recently and thought that it was a cute movie (plus I love the song I Try). Bambi II was more entertaining than the original to me. I also enjoyed Kronk's New Groove and Mickey's Twice Upon A Christmas too.

    However none of them can make up for the truly horrendous Mulan II - absolutely nothing appealing about that detritus at all.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    >Has anybody said Atlantis yet?

    What a sad statement (though unfortunately apropos). I love Atlantis and disagree pretty much with every criticism I've ever read about it. I think it's a perfect example of the science fantasy genre. I'd've paid full ticket price just to watch the opening gambit.

    And Helga is my favorite character.

    I wasn't thinking CGI or I'd've listed Meet the Robinsons in a heartbeat. I like it better every time I see it, and every time I watch it, I just want to watch it again.

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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>Dick Cook was looking to buy animated features when the company's own WDFA was heading south - fast. It didn't work and that model has been ditched.<<

    Wasn't it more of an Eisnerian slap to PIXAR, kind of a "see, we don't need you" thing that backfired horribly? That's what the mainstream liberal Disney fan media was saying at the time. (Sorry, I've been in WE a lot lately.)

    Unfortunately, Return to Neverland was not direct to video. It was a theatrical release, as were Jungle Book II and several Pooh movies.

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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    I really enjoyed Meet The Robinsons too.

    But then don't listen to me - my Disney 1,2,3 would be

    1) HoND
    2) Treasure Planet
    3) F2000

    So what do I know?!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    UK, I always admire somebody whose faves are out of the common.

    Guilty! The Disney Villains
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    Originally Posted By Liberty Belle

    Oh, I loved the song from Treasure Planet too! And I *thoroughly* enjoyed Meet the Robinsons, so I guess I'm just a nut.

    Like DWB, I prefer mostly 'modern' (if the '90s are still modern) features.
     
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    Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs

    ^^^A little off-topic but I was doing some cleaning and came across a box for Encarta '96...and a pack for Windows '98... lol

    I think Atlantis should be up there; it was something different that the company did (sci-fi), and even though it wasn't the first 'serious' animated film they did, Atlantis accomplished many things that really haven't been seen before in a Disney film: ethnic variety, plenty of casualties, violence.

    I liked the Mole's insanity and all the characters' (save Milo) thirst for greed. Rourke and Helga made good Villains as well, with both of them playing the "they-probably-are-but-still-not-sure" card and having very interesting deaths.
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORGOCH: Come agin? No votes fer The Bleak Cauldron?
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I'll say it again: I like Black Cauldron. A lot.

    I still named Treasure Planet as the most underrated because of the way Disney dissed it after its opening weekend.

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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    What exactly did Disney say about Treasure Planet? I don't really remember what happened, other than it had a lot of publicity before it came out, and then it just sort of faded away pretty quickly after it actually opened.
     

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