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Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Come to think of it, I distinctly remember an interview on the news in which an elderly black lady was asked what it was like seeing Obama sworn in. Her response ... and I'm pretty sure this is a direct quote ... was "like Jesus is back on the throne!" So, uh, yeah. I hate to agree with Rush, but it was right there in high definition." Try and put that in context. An elderly black woman has just seen a black man sworn in as president. She's more than entitled to a bit of hyperbole.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<Lets see, from a Google search....>> Yeah, your Google search results are as telling as the fact that you created this thead. Your Google search of "Obama" and "messiah" came up with a few hits in which journalists -- not Obama supporters -- used the two words together. Nothing of substance. Sorry. But thanks for playing.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <There he goes again. News clippings don't mean shit, Darkbeer.< well in his defense this time - there was a challenge here to produce one item showing the actual word Messiah - he produced 3.......
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Try and put that in context. An elderly black woman has just seen a black man sworn in as president. She's more than entitled to a bit of hyperbole.< sure - but again the claim here was that I and others were somehow making this stuff up - no it really exists. So when someone shows it exists - we're told it's justified. That's a change from we're imagining things. It's just over the top-- hopefully it will die down eventually
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<well in his defense this time - there was a challenge here to produce one item showing the actual word Messiah - he produced 3.......>> Uhhhhhh... NO. See Post #83. He produced articles in which the MEDIA used the term "Messiah." He produced no evidence that any actual Obama supporter used the term.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer How about the Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakan, a loyal Obama Supporter and Political figure... <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77539" target="_blank">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?...Id=77539</a> >>Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, another powerful Chicago-based political figure associated with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and other long-time associates of Democratic Party presidential candidate Barack Obama, is leaving no doubt about what he thinks of the leader in the campaign for the White House. He says when Obama talks "the Messiah is absolutely speaking."... Addressing a large crowd behind a podium Feb. 24 with a Nation of Islam Saviour's Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaims, "You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking." "Brothers and sisters," Farrakhan said, "Barack Obama to me, is a herald of the Messiah. Barack Obama is like the trumpet that alerts you something new, something better is on the way." Farrakhan points out that the man Nation of Islam followers refer to as "the Savior," Fard Muhammad, had a black father and a white mother, just as Obama did. "A black man with a white mother became a savior to us," he said. "A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall. "Would God allow Barack to be president of a country that has been so racist, so evil in its treatment of Hispanics, native Americans, blacks?" he asked. "Would God do something like that? Yeah. Of course he would. That's to show you that the stone that the builders rejected has become the headstone of the corner. This is a sign to you. It's the time of our rise. It's the time that we should take our place. The future is all about you." Farrakhan suggested he would keep a low profile in the campaign, despite his enthusiasm for Obama. "That's why you have never heard me make any comment," he explained. "I love that brother, and I want to see that brother successful. I don't want to say anything that would hurt that brother, and I don't want them to use me or the Nation of Islam." Returning to the theme that Obama is a mystical figure, Farrakhan said, he "is not the Messiah for sure, but anytime he gives you a sign of uniting races, ethnic groups, ideologies, religions and makes people feel a sense of oneness, that's not necessarily Satan's work, that is, I believe, the work of God." He went on to point out that when religious scholars talk about Christ or the Islamic Mahdi, they never talk in racial terms – again, pointing to Obama's mixed racial background.<< Video of the comments can be found at the link.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Or this website.... <a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57090" target="_blank">http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f...Id=57090</a> >>"Is this a messianic movement? A cult of personality? Or just good ol' fashioned politics?" Those are the questions an Internet blog called "Is Barack Obama the Messiah?" began with one year ago. By simply highlighting media reports since then – including WND's account of an Obama rally in Seattle – the website has captured the wave of euphoria that has followed the Democratic senator's remarkable rise to the brink of the party's presidential nomination. The site, laced with photos and magazine covers illustrating the theme, is topped by a Obama quote strategically ripped from a Jan. 7 speech at Dartmouth College just before the New Hampshire Primary in which he told students, "… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote" for Obama. The blog prominently displays the July 11 cover of the German magazine Der Spiegel, which has a photo of Obama under the title, "The Messiah Factor, Barack Obama and the Yearning for a New America." Slate.com's Timothy Noah introduced last year his tongue-in-cheek "Obama Messiah Watch," a periodic feature "considering evidence that Obama is the Son of God." "Is Barack Obama – junior U.S. senator from Illinois, best-selling author, Harvard Law Review editor, Men's Vogue cover model, and "exploratory" presidential candidate – the second coming of our Savior and our Redeemer, Prince of Peace and King of Kings, Jesus Christ?" Noah wrote. "His press coverage suggests we can't dismiss this possibility out of hand." "I therefore inaugurate the Obama Messiah Watch, which will periodically highlight gratuitously adoring biographical details that appear in newspaper, television and magazine profiles of this other worldly presence in our midst," Noah proclaimed. Noah added that readers are invited to submit similar details, such as "Obama walking on water, Obama sating the hunger of 5,000 with five loaves and two fishes – from other Obama profiles. And also, of course, to repent, just in case the hour approacheth nigh." WND reported how the numerous instances in which Obama has interrupted speeches to attend to a fainting follower has some questioning whether the campaign is employing shills or whether the phenomenon is evidence of fanaticism and cause for concern. The "Is Barack Obama the Messiah?" blog features a "Transfiguration" image of the Illinois senator – a photo by Michael Edwards that appeared in a New York magazine story published April 16, 2007 According to the magazine, the photo was taken at a fundraiser at the Manhattan home of Steven and Judy Gluckerstern. It shows Obama elevated from the crowd, standing on a staircase that ascends to a darkened window above his head. George Soros is clearly seen sitting at the base of the staircase to Obama's immediate left. The website cites numerous well-known figures under the heading of "Conversions," who represent Obama in larger-than-life terms. New Age luminary Deepak Chopra said in a Jan. 5 op-ed piece on the Huffington Post that "the X factor which sets Barack Obama aside as a unique candidate is his hard-won self-awareness." "If we are lucky, we will wake up and begin the journey back to self-awareness as people," Chopra wrote. "That happens only rarely, and now it has happened to a junior senator from Illinois." Chopra asserted that if Obama "makes it all the way to the White House, it will represent a quantum leap in American consciousness and a promise to restore America's position in the world." MSNBC anchor Chris Matthews recently claimed he felt a "thrill going up my leg" listening to an Obama speech. Matthews bubbled on, claiming Obama "speaks about America in a way that has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with the feeling we have about our country. And that is an objective assessment." Oprah Winfrey, after listening to speech Obama gave to a Des Moines audience Dec. 8, told reporters, "When you listen to Barack Obama, when you really hear him, you witness a very rare thing. You witness a politician who has an ear for eloquence and a tongue dipped in the unvarnished truth." Conservative critics have pondered whether the messiah phenomenon will help or hurt Obama. Writing in the American Thinker, consulting editor J.R. Dunn noted the tendency liberals have to see their leaders as transcendent beings, "someone more than human, someone with a touch of the divine." Examining how liberals tend to put Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy on a God-like pedestal, Dunn commented that for the American left, "Leaders don't handle tasks, they lead movements, they embody the spirit of the age. They transform. Leaders, to put it simply, are fuehrers." Internet blogger Jon Swift, writing critically about the "Obama Messiah" movement, muses "there comes a time in the life of every adolescent girl, and even Chris Matthews, when they peel the yellowing photos of Scott Baio they cut out of Tiger Beat off their bedroom walls and toss them in the garbage bin." "Barack Obama will be [47] in August," Swift noted. "Will Chris Mathews and Obama's other devoted disciples still have his picture on their bedroom walls then?"<<
Originally Posted By Darkbeer By the way, here is the direct link to the website mentioned above... <a href="http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/</a>
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<He produced no evidence that any actual Obama supporter used the term.>> [1] <<How about the Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakan, a loyal Obama Supporter and Political figure...>> [rolls eyes] Okay. You got us there on a technicality. Farrakan does qualify as an "Obama supporter" who refers to Obama as The Messiah. So, yes, one failing celeb [Farrakan] whose desperate hope is to remain newsworthy did use the word "messiah" in reference to Obama. Nevermind that his desperation to cling to fame stems from the fact that he has been increasingly and almost-completely marginalized by both black and white Obama supporters. [2] <<Or this website....>> You have to be kidding. Jeez, Darkbeer. Read it yourself: ""I therefore inaugurate the Obama Messiah Watch, which will periodically highlight gratuitously adoring biographical details that appear in newspaper, television and magazine profiles of this other worldly presence in our midst," Noah proclaimed." This is no example of a liberal using the tern "messiah" to refer to Obama. It's a Google hit on a conservative who set up a website to LOOK for liberals using that term. Get real.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin Thanks I57, just got back to this... Darkbeer-As has been said before, only folks who have proclaimed President Obama a messiah are perhaps as SPP pointed out crazy homeless guys. And of course in some way Farrakhan may seem to you a typical President Obama supporter, but let me assure you he isn't typical of anybody anywhere. But, since the press has proclaimed it and you have verified it by pointing out that the press verified it...maybe you're the one that believes it.
Originally Posted By DAR Farrakhan is probably happy because the white devil isn't completely running things.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Darkbeer is afraid, obviously very afraid, of Obama. If all he's got is cut and paste, yet again, the rantings of a fat drug addicted traitor then he's got nothing. I've come to the conclusion that people like this are just very stupid. They do not possess even basic observation skills. The rank partisanship that losers like this favor was soundly rejected last November. NEITHER candidate espoused the views the Fat Drug Addict and his disciples endorse, and until McCain caved in to them and allowed the inclusion of Palin on the ticket, the vast majority of us would have been happy with either candidate because it would have been a fresh start, a break from the absolute trash, garbage and vile tripe that the Fat Drug Addict spews forth. Once Palin came along, get a clue Fat Guy, the election was over. The public has no use for you anymore, we're sick and tired of you. You lost, shut up. And for good measure, I'll throw in the Pelosis and Reids of the world too. But right now, since the Fat Drug Addict has anointed himself along with the dwarf Hannity the conscience of the Republican party, he's more than just an "entertainer" and deserves to get slammed. It's painfully obvious there are lemmings among us who are more than willing to post his every word as a subsitute for whatever thinking and reasoning skills they might possess. And so yeah, I'll admit it. Even if they can't admit Obama scares them because deep down they know he just might succeed, I'll admit the Fat Drug Addicts of the world scare me because there's people out there gullible enough to buy what he's selling. But we don't need this type of divisiveness now, or at any time.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <See Post #83. He produced articles in which the MEDIA used the term "Messiah." He produced no evidence that any actual Obama supporter used the term. < the assumption is that the writer is NOT a supporter ?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <and until McCain caved in to them and allowed the inclusion of Palin on the ticket, the vast majority of us would have been happy with either candidate because it would have been a fresh start, a break from the absolute trash, garbage and vile tripe that the Fat Drug Addict spews forth. Once Palin came along, get a clue Fat Guy, the election was over. < as true a paragraph as I've read here. I really hope McCain does work as Obama's wing man with the GOP as they are touting - it would restore his image ( McCains) < And for good measure, I'll throw in the Pelosis and Reids of the world too< Amen- on top the same garbage heap. Let's hope the days of purely partisan politics are close to over...everyone wins then
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <[rolls eyes] Okay. You got us there on a technicality. Farrakan does qualify as an "Obama supporter" who refers to Obama as The Messiah.> Actually, no, even wacko Farrakhan didn't even do that. Look again: "Returning to the theme that Obama is a mystical figure, Farrakhan said, he "is not the Messiah for sure, " What he said was: "Brothers and sisters," Farrakhan said, "Barack Obama to me, is a herald of the Messiah. Barack Obama is like the trumpet that alerts you something new, something better is on the way." So Farrakhan is saying not that Obama is the Messiah, but that he's a "herald" of the Messiah (more like John the Baptist), or that the Messiah speaks through Obama. Given that we are to show respect to religious views that we may view as whacked out personally, I will refrain from further comment except to say that even THAT nut didn't refer to Obama as the Messiah. Have a few people? I'm sure, probably. But the way Limbaugh and the rest of the noise machine talks about it, it's clearly a much bigger bugaboo in their addled little minds than it is in reality.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 And to get back to the OT: <Let's put an end to all this right now. "The CNN Digital Network was the no. 1 online destination among current events and global news sites, according to the research firm Nielsen Online. It had 11 million unique visitors on Tuesday when Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th president. The MSNBC Digital Network followed with 10 million unique visitors and Yahoo! News took the No. 3 spot with 9.1 million. Rounding out the top five was the Fox News Digital Network and AOL News.> So... Let's say Nielsen's television numbers are accurate. I believe they would of necessity vastly underestimate the 2009 numbers, since they have no accurate way of measuring television watching in offices, but for the sake of argument let's say they're right. So that's 41 million watching Reagan on TV in 1981. And 38 million watching Obama on TV in 2009, PLUS at least 30 million more watching on the internet on just the three most-watched sites. Just including those three, it becomes 68 million to 41 million, numbers which dwarf Reagan's. The "most watched Innuaguration" was clearly Obama's. Sorry, Darkbeer.
Originally Posted By mele Church is in! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PqI12R8YNU&eurl=http://perezhilton.com/page/4/" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.../page/4/</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X What's funny is that a ton of right winger zones are latching onto this "figure" with relish, insisting that Obama was never popular to begin with (certainly not compared to Lord Reagan), and it was entirely a fiction created by the media.
