Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I think they should make a central Bus Hub off World Drive somewhere next to EPCOT (middle of the WDW property). Buses to and from any park and resort area would have to go only to the Hub and to very adjacent resorts. For instance, to go from DAK to MK, you would board a bus from DAK to the Bus Hub, then get off grab a bus to MK. That way, they could keep a steady stream of buses only between DAK and the hub. The same with a steady stream of busses between the Hub and MK (and EPCOT, and D/MGM, and DD, and waterparks, and golf, and Disney Cruise Line, and the airport, etc). Time spent in line for buses would be greatly reduced, and bus traffic on the roads could be more easily managed. They could also reduce the acreage of bus depots at each park. For instance, the MK bus depot would only have bus stops for local MK resorts and the Bus Hub - none other. EPCOT would only have bus stops for the EPCOT resorts and the Bus Hub. AK would only have bus stops for AK Lodge, All Stars and the Bus Hub. But as you can imagine, the Bus Hub would be a pretty busy place. But with a coordinated design and a constant flow of buses, it would make transportation much easier. No parking there tho. Buses only.
Originally Posted By beamerdog I like FerretAfros' idea of the people mover along the backside of the park. Especially if you got the "sneak peek" into the different countries. I had started this topic as a possible remedy to the wheelchairs and ECV's clogging up the current walkways as I can't see a decrease in their use. Not arguing any points here - I just don't think that people who are taking advantage and who should walk but can't/won't aren't going to give them up no matter how much we discuss it here. And people like me, who need them, and don't want to make matters worse for the general visitor. I know that I could probably do the park without an ecv short term if there was an alternative to walking the whole distance. I'm sure that others could, too. Since shopping is a lot easier on foot, maybe disney would consider this if they thought they'd make more money (maybe they could do like Las Vegas and have the people mover dump us out into a shop at the exits, lol).
Originally Posted By beamerdog I really think that the wdw execs should consider some alternatives if the "geriatric" crowd is increasing and they continue to view this as a viable visitor market.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<"At an early 1994 NFFC convention Tony Baxter described the plans for WestCOT. Here are some excerpts:...">> That concept worked so well at the AK that they abandoned it in the first year.
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp Walking through EPCOT can be tiresome, but all too many folks could really use the exercise. We do a pedometer, and rarely do more than 12,00 feet in a trip (6 miles). Considering that it's being done over time, this shouldn't bee too strenuous for most - physically challenged (by a medical condition) excepted. Else you're out of shape, and can really use the exercise. On the alternative topic in this thread, have had to put up with O'Hare, LAX and Atlanta airports on a regular basis (lived where these were the "hubs".). LAX is the absolute pits - will spend extra to go to John Wayne, and never, ever go on a holiday weekend. O"hare is ok, unless you have to change airlines. But Atlanta, that's tough - going from C32 to T01 for the same airline is miserable, and I've had that one with the train broken and the air conditioning out. On a Saturday night returning from Europe. Thought I'd die.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I'm so use to Hartsfield that I don't have a problem with it. Its already the busiest airport in the world.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Every Person Comes Out Tired, Every Pocketbook Comes Out Thinner, Evil Polyester Costumes Of Torture, Eisner's Personal Coin-Operated Toy and Eisner's Personal Cash On Tap.
Originally Posted By Indigo {{<<"At an early 1994 NFFC convention Tony Baxter described the plans for WestCOT. Here are some excerpts:...">> That concept worked so well at the AK that they abandoned it in the first year.}} Roadtrip, that's not really fair. There was never any attempt to do storytelling on the AK river ride. That's part of the reason it failed.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Roadtrip, that's not really fair. There was never any attempt to do storytelling on the AK river ride. That's part of the reason it failed.>> Well, for a while they tried doing a Radio Disney thing on the boats and that didn't work any better. The main problem was that because of the slow-loading and periodic nature of that type of transit/attraction there were HUGE lines for the thing. Once people discovered they really weren’t getting much more than transit out of the thing they were not happy. Apparently the Radio Disney thing was not enough to make them think otherwise.
Originally Posted By Nobody I realize that "World Cruise" was just a concept, and we'll never know for sure, but my impression was that it was to be a very different animal that the AK boats. A potential 45 minute round trip, with enclosed show scenes seems pretty ambitious. Now, if you'd like to compare the AK boats to Mike Fink's Keel Boats, (along with their respective outcomes) you might be on to something.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> That concept worked so well at the AK that they abandoned it in the first year. << Tell me more about this. I haven't heard this. I know the AK had a Discovery Island boat system (boats are used elsewhere at WDW quite a lot). But there were no "show scenes" on the water system at AK like what Tony Baxter was describing for WestCot (that I know of.)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip << But there were no "show scenes" on the water system at AK like what Tony Baxter was describing for WestCot (that I know of.)>> Well, there was nothing really major, but what was there seemed a promise that Beastie Land might eventually come. Steaming caves, a dragon and a sea serpent all inhabited the waters of the Discovery River. <a href="http://allearsnet.com/tp/ak/akdrb.htm" target="_blank">http://allearsnet.com/tp/ak/ak drb.htm</a>
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Not to mention the cool AA of the Dinosaur that used to play in the waters by the Dinoland bridge. I miss those extra little touches from opening day at DAK.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Is that the same one?? How come it doesn't move at all if it is indeed the one sitting at the front of the ride??
Originally Posted By avromark ^^ Do you remember a period of time when many cities did "Deferred Maintenance". If it is the same Dino,
Originally Posted By TDLFAN No I don't remember, but I think Kevin Yee aptly named the concept ... like.. "declining steps in quality" or something like that??
