Originally Posted By donnyaz When I think back to my Dads love of Ali it was his showmanship and it somehow morphed Ali into a hero but as the HBO documentary <a href="http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/thrillainmanila/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.hbo.com/docs/progra...dex.html</a> will show the real hero is Frazier .
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I too prefer Frazier. Joe Frazier was on the Howard Stern Show the other day and when you could understand him, he was pretty funny. Ali called Frazier a gorilla and an Uncle Tom despite the fact that Frazier was instrumental in helping Ali get back into the ring.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Ali called Frazier a gorilla and an Uncle Tom despite the fact that Frazier was instrumental in helping Ali get back into the ring." And if you knew enough to understand the context of the times you'd know why he did it.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I think you should discover it for yourself. Read the Hausner book I referenced earlier, then Ali's autobiographies.
Originally Posted By barboy Speaking of Ali and Frazier I was just in the Areneta indoor stadium 3 nights ago where the 'Thrilla in manila' took place in '75. Actually, for such a famous bout the stadium is not that big looking....... I'd say noticeably smaller in size than NBA arenas. It really is rather initimate in there(maybe 25K capacity at most) and the "Thrilla in Manila" banner still hangs.
