Originally Posted By kromero5 We all love Mulholland Madness! My girls especially love it (4 & 10). We all laugh our heads off each time we ride it.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<If they actually do go ahead with a Victorian re-theme for the Pier>> You're kidding, right? They are going to take a park that celebrates California and model it after 19th century England? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I admit PP could use a firmer identity era wise, but let's go for mid-twentieth century America, OK??
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<There were Victorian style piers in California.>> OK... after meeting you and talking with you I know better than to doubt you on such things. But I'm curious... where was such a thing located??
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Hey, I just realized why they call it Mullholland Madness...apparently there's a well-known street in CA called "Mullholland Drive". Coincidence? I think not! (and for those of you who don't know, just so you won't think I'm a *complete* idiot, I live in Kentucky and have only been to CA once so far, lol)
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb My sister-in-law lives very close to Mullholland. Which if you didn't know used to be quite famouse for illegal road racing.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<We all love Mulholland Madness!>> I rode it a couple of times back-to-back last time I was at DCA, since there was no line to speak of...the CM's were happy to allow it. I too had a blast with my sister and her kids. Could Disney do better? Of course. But that doesn't make MM not fun.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Exactly. Not every attraction needs to be an E-ticket. Without the nostalgia value, how would people react to a Mr. Toad or Snow White or Teacups that opened today? How would people react to Fantasyland if it opened today? I can already hear the comments about cheap dark rides that could be found at any 50's carnival offering nothing more than paint glowing in black-light for entertainment. And if any attraction ever deserved a description of “spinner†it is the teacups. Attractions can be fun without being the best Disney has to offer.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>Not every attraction needs to be an E-ticket.<<< But every attraction in a DISNEY park needs to be themed. Maliboomer and Mulholland Madness have no theming beyond the very weak, amatuerish efforts that were expended on them by Barry Braverman and his gang of Six Flags rejects.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig Mr. Toad and Snow White: Highly detailed dark rides. Teacups: Very well themed to the movie they are based on, including the area music that plays in the attraction. Molholland Madness and Maliboomer: No heavy detailing. Nothing unique to these installations that can not be found at countless versions in so called "lesser" parks worldwide. No special area music. No background story. Nothing. Shame on Eisner, Pressler, Braverman, and everyone else at Disney who are no longer there and who allowed this junk to be installed in a "Disney" theme park. Shame on them. The real test is: Can you possibly FATHOM the thought of the post Eisner/Pressler/Braverman Disney building those exact same rides in any of their parks today? I can't, in this era of the money they are spending to bring back the submarines, and I think that's evidence enough of how wrong the decisions regarding DCA were, especially with respect to Paradise Pier.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Mr. Toad and Snow White: Highly detailed dark rides.>> Highly detailed plywood flats with day-glow paint. Hey... I'm not knocking them; I enjoy riding them. I just see them as an example that not every attraction needs to be state-of-the-art to be fun. IF you accept the premise that Paradise Pier is themed to the seaside amusement parks of the past, I don't really see how either Mulholland Madness or Maliboomer do not represent the theme well. Now you can crab about the theme if you want (and certainly will) but I don't really see how you can complain about the attractions themselves given the theme of the area.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I admit PP could use a firmer identity era wise, but let's go for mid-twentieth century America, OK??> As Dug said, "Victorian" as a style did exist in California. The Hotel Del Coronado, which is definitely a California icon, is Victorian. I prefer the other idea that rumor has it was bandied around, the 20's. But I suppose the Cove Bar would have to close. Prohibition, you know...
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>...the 20's. But I suppose the Cove Bar would have to close. Prohibition, you know...<<< It would just have to be a speakeasy, that could be fun
Originally Posted By Sweeper MM and DinoRama at AK were both conceived by the same cheap mall mentality. MM has been rethemed since opening and it's still terrible. If you want to ride a well-designed Wild Mouse head down the 5 to Legoland. Their Wild Mouse is great fun and actually has sound effects on the ride of skidding tires. Their cars are roomy and it has a great first hill. Now if Disney could create a well-themed AA experience in a custom Wild Mouse designed to look like something it could have potential. BUT it needs to be twice the capacity at least. Two cars connected like Matterhorn could help. But no more exposed coaster superstructures please. As for Route 66...ever notice how the real Route 66 is never a big draw today? Giant stucco dinosaurs, Indian Tee Pees, petrified logs, etc. not exactly pulling in the money from tourists.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "No heavy detailing. Nothing unique to these installations that can not be found at countless versions in so called "lesser" parks worldwide. No special area music. No background story. Nothing." Well, the Maliboomer does have "music", since there is that goofy slide whistle noise when they go up, and I beleive there is even a bell from it hitting the top. And for heavy theming, those giant bells at the top of the Maliboomer and those green steel walls around MM look pretty heavy to me. "BUT it needs to be twice the capacity at least." This is why Primevil Whirl at DAK has two tracks. They are identical and share a queue building that splits before the loads. When I was there, during a fairly crowded spring break, there was only one running. I kept thinking that they were connected together, and was really dissapointed that it was just a second one. Although it may help capacity, it would really be a waste to do anything like that. And adding a second car would increase load time dramatically, and in such a short loading area, that is not good. Also, I can't imagine that this ride would be very fun from the second car, as it is obvious where you are going and that you are not going to fall off of the track.
Originally Posted By idleHands <<It would just have to be a speakeasy, that could be fun>> Speakeasy. Yeah. Something I have always lusted for: a real, live, genuine "Ink & Paint Club" from WFRR. And with the latest digital technology that's driving Turtle Talk and the new Monsters attraction for MK, it's definitely doable now. That would be so freakin' cool!
Originally Posted By Sweeper The title of this thread asked if MM had the worst theming ever. It is really near the top of the worst in my book even after the huge, cartoon map was attached. The ride is just not a Disney quality ride. Low capacity and bad show...it lives up to only 2 of the 4 keys of the Disney experience and the creeping load platform makes me wonder about safety. I hate this thing! I'll know DCA is on its way to becoming a Disney Quality park when that piece is removed and Route 66 is demolished.
Originally Posted By idleHands Hear! Hear! The new dark ride going into Toon Studios at DSP *should* be the Disney way to do a wild mouse. Mulholland Madness is NOT an oxymoron. 8^P
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Hans, Knotts took out its parachute drop quite a few years ago, the mechanizm is still there but the parachutes and the cables are gone, just that central view platform remains." I guess that goes to show how much I know about Knott's, doesn't it?
