Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Right. My point exactly. Thanks for making it for me so eloquently." Um, no. You didn't answer the question. Typical.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher As I was watching the slide show at this link... <a href="http://www.jtcent.com/disneysea/special/spx5th/5th_deco.html" target="_blank">http://www.jtcent.com/disneyse a/special/spx5th/5th_deco.html</a> ...where the *other* new Disney park of 2001 seems to be putting as much effort and money into celebrating its 5th birthday as has been invested in Disneyland for its 50th, it makes me realize just how laughable DCA -- and all our debates about it -- really is. When *temporary* elements at DisneySea look more elaborate and carefully designed than some of the permanent placemaking changes at DCA (for example, the new Mickey fountain in the Hollywood backlot), the arguments here about the pros and cons of DCA is like people in a small town arguing over whether the new traffic signal on Elm Street and the new stop sign next to the gas station at First and Main mean their town finally has entered the big leagues, right up there with New York City and Chicago!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 When "temporary" subjects that actually attempt to discuss something specific get derailed into the same spectacularly redundant old dross...
Originally Posted By disneywatcher As I was reading the text and looking at the photos at this link... <a href="http://www.laughingplace.com/Lotion-View-255.asp" target="_blank">http://www.laughingplace.com/L otion-View-255.asp</a> ...I'm reminded again that the debates and arguments here, going back to 2001 and even before then, about the pros and cons of DCA truly are like people in a small town yakkity-yakking about whether the new traffic signal on Elm Street and the new stop sign next to the gas station at First and Main mean their town finally has entered the big leagues, right up there with New York City and Chicago! When I see what's going on elsewhere, DCA really does seem like the boondocks.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Well ... if I may say something.... For those who are newer to Laughingplace ... The subject of "value system" gets brought up a lot because many feel that no matter what changes happen to the Walt Disney Co. .. as time goes by .. the one thing that CANNOT change IS "Values". When it comes to DISNEY, you don't put a person in charge of a major project who values "sanboxes" and "swing slides" for parks that charge 60 bucks at the front. But for a community of large posters who've been around for a long time ... many are tired of the same discussion. And unfortunately .. there's just not much to say about DCA. There's nothing being heard through the grapevine ...... DCA is a dead subject. For now, anyway.
Originally Posted By oc_dean DCA is a favorite subject ... On both sides of the spectrum .... As we are all very passionate about the subject. It beats being depressed about real world events. It's a good discussion to discuss. For newer posters, and breaking news, anyway.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> There's nothing being heard through the grapevine << Actually, there is - $300 million for an extreme makeover - now that's what I call a rumor!
Originally Posted By disneywatcher 3 more Paradise Piers!? That would make Michael Eisner smile and cheer. Now that I think of it, the mediocre, tacky themeing of many parts of DCA, or the uninspired work on it in general, not only makes the park seem like it was built by and for a bunch of hayseeds, but in so doing, it inadvertantly sends a rather embarrassing message about the state it's supposed to be celebrating---that, of course, being California.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>>> There's nothing being heard through the grapevine << Actually, there is - $300 million for an extreme makeover - now that's what I call a rumor! << So little has been said though. And I fear they'll procrastinate. HOWEVER .. I remain positive big changes are brewing. And I'll be even giddier once the construction crews are hauled in!
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Now that I think of it, the mediocre, tacky themeing of many parts of DCA, or the uninspired work on it in general, not only makes the park seem like it was built by and for a bunch of hayseeds, but in so doing, it inadvertantly sends a rather embarrassing message about the state it's supposed to be celebrating---that, of course, being California.>> Speaking of building, anyone ever tell you your sentence constuction is horrible?
Originally Posted By disneywatcher ^ It can't be all that bad. After all, you've been kind of easygoing when it comes to mediocre, tacky DCA.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<It can't be all that bad>> In all seriousness, it IS bad. Frankly, a lot of the time I get lost half-way into you sentence, and I can barely make out what thought you are trying to convey. The trouble is you try to put too many thoughts all into one long run-on sentence.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher ^ Oh, really? I bet if I had written: "DCA may not be the best park imaginable, but its Pier area has a certain attractiveness at night, and the Grizzly raft ride is ideal on hot days, and Barry Braverman deserves more credit than he's gotten, although I'm sure he wishes he had more money to work with, just as I suspect Michael Eisner couldn't fulfill all the ambitions he had originally for the park, and the Bugs' Land addition, while it could have been more imaginative, nonetheless has a certain charm about it, so when all is said and done I think the park is nicer than it's harshest critics make it out to be." ...You'd say, hmm, that sentence is rather long, but it's otherwise perfectly fine and easy to follow!
Originally Posted By socalkdg That is a terrible paragraph. A guy here at work sends emails like that. You never know what he is talking about.
