Nate Silvers Final prediction

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    Originally Posted By TMI

    "Tell that to the Miami-Dade GOP"

    But not right this minute, they're a little pre-occupied dealing with the after-effects of their voter suppression schemes!
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    "Tell that to the Miami-Dade GOP"

    But not right this minute, they're a little pre-occupied dealing with the after-effects of their voter suppression schemes!<<

    You do realize every single one of the changes made in the past year were challenged in Federal court, and every single one of those changes were upheld...

    In retrospect, maybe the laws need to be re-looked at, but a Federal judge would have struck down the changes if they felt they were maliciously set up to disenfranchise voters.. Or at least, that's how the court system is supposed to work...
     
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    Originally Posted By andyll

    <<You do realize every single one of the changes made in the past year were challenged in Federal court, and every single one of those changes were upheld...>>

    Straw man arguement

    Nobody is claiming that limited the number of early voting days is illegal.

    They are claiming it was a deliberate attempt to surpress the vote in democratic areas.

    Same with having less voting booths in denser (democratic) areas then other areas.

    Same with limited early voting hours/days.

    If it was an isolated issue in FL it would be one thing.

    But every swing state that had republican state leadership tried various things (depending on the office) to suppress the democratic vote.

    It was offensive.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< But every swing state that had republican state leadership tried various things (depending on the office) to suppress the democratic vote. >>>

    In OH, a GOP county chair was quoted as saying regarding the elimination of Saturday early voting that we "shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban—read African-American—voter-turnout"

    In PA, the GOP Speaker of the House said that the new Voter ID law would "deliver PA to Governor Romney."

    There's no doubt that these were parts of a coordinated effort, and that the purpose of the effort was not just to "true the vote" but specifically to create a more Right-leaning result.

    <<< It was offensive. >>

    Most definitely.
     
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    Originally Posted By andyll

    River Oaks Precinct is the most African American precinct in VA

    Over 5000 registered voters... 6 machines.

    5 hour wait.

    The county register requested more based on 2008 turnout and was turned down.

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pfd5CcgzBdo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...5CcgzBdo</a>

    We are the richest country in the world that claims to be the most free and democratic...

    And we can't manage to make voting easy.

    The last time I voted in person... 2-3 presidentail elections ago... my precinct had 10-20 machines and I never waited more then 10 minutes to vote.

    Of course I live in a rich, lilly white, conservative county.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    I think anyone who believes there was not a concerted effort to suppress votes is simply kidding themselves.
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    Paul Weyrich, one of the founders of the Heritage Foudation, was proud of his conservative desire for obstructionism in voting:

    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Weyrich" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P..._Weyrich</a>

    "I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of the people. They never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPsl_TuFdes" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...l_TuFdes</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By FaMulan

    And people like that are why EVERYONE who is eligible should be registered and should vote their conscience after they research the candidates and propositions.
     

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