Originally Posted By jonvn "You seem to have just skipped over my question. So, have you been on it yet? Just curious." I've said this many times already. No. I'm going by content and what I've seen, and what the lines are.
Originally Posted By jonvn "No, he didn't." It sounded like he was mentioning that other article, given the timing. I don't think it was the LA Times. "even when everyone knew it was just the old subs and the old effects, had a consistently long line, even on slower days." Well, maybe I'm wrong. The thing is that I recall in the last days that this ride had NOWHERE near the lines it once had. The lines were just not that long anymore. I think my youngster will enjoy it, I am sure he will.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I do give the company some credit for what appears to be a very imaginative update to a classic Disneyland attraction." I'm very glad they did something, too. But I simply wish they didn't just make another dark ride, nor overuse a technology. It's not like I want them to build a ride out of Ol' Yeller, where a rabid dog gets shot in the head at the end, but it's enough with the cutesy junk. It's that endless cutesy stuff that is going to be what does this ride in, if anything. People are not going to want to wait for it when they can get much of the same all over the rest of the park.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice <<At least it doesn't make anyone puke. ;-) >> *LOL*!! Unlike Mission Spacebarf, which I wouldn't go near on a bet, I plan to enjoy the new subs multiple times when we finally get there again in December.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "It's that endless cutesy stuff that is going to be what does this ride in, if anything. People are not going to want to wait for it when they can get much of the same all over the rest of the park." Excellent point, and I couldn't agree more.
Originally Posted By DlandJB Let the cynics go ride something else, then. I rode it and I was absolutely charmed. It isn't just a cartoon, it is a complete experience...fun, charming, delightful... I had not been on the old subs. I may have been on the WDW subs as a little kid, but my memory isn't great about such things. At any rate, it was a new experience for me and it could not have been more delightful. People still line up for Peter Pan even though it is just another dark ride. Why? Because the experience is magical. People will wait an hour or more for that ride, which is over before you can blink. Nemo has an equal amount, if not more, charm and you get a substantial amount of time to experience it. Works for me. I plan to ride it as much as possible this summer, and the fall, and the winter...
Originally Posted By WorldDisney "You seem to have just skipped over my question. So, have you been on it yet? Just curious." <<I've said this many times already. No. I'm going by content and what I've seen, and what the lines are.>> Oops, sorry. Maybe I just missed them or didn't read that closely.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>it was just the old subs and the old effects, had a consistently long line, even on slower days.<< For as long as I can remember .. the subs ALWAYS had a long line! Leading right up to it's closing in 1998. I often avoided it! Heh-hee Now that the actual station is no longer a series of switch-backs .. and now a huge dispatching station (think Space Mountain's dispatching area - x5) .... you're gonna see a nice long line outside the main entrance for quite some time!!
Originally Posted By danyoung >The thing is that I recall in the last days that this ride had NOWHERE near the lines it once had.< Perhaps someone can log in with the definitive answer, but to my recall the lines were 60 to 90 minutes long, right up to the closing of the ride. I remember a lot of talk about why Disney is closing a ride that's consistently popular, year in and year out.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Regarding it being "just a cartoon," isn't Space Mountain just a roller coaster? Isn't Soarin' just a movie ride?
Originally Posted By SFH Also, Star Tours is just a movie. The Disneyland Railroad is just a train... you can ride Amtrak, for crying out loud! Mission: Space and Carousel of Progress? Just merry-go-rounds. Pirates of the Caribbean? Just a bunch of dolls. Who's going to want to watch a bunch of dolls? Why couldn't they just leave the lagoon empty! (That was seriously the alternative.) All kidding aside, this is the best attraction that could be produced given the corporate culture that created it. And it is an enjoyable attraction. I'm glad the subs are back! SFH
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP If what you want is amazing feats of engineering you'll be at Magic Mountain, or some other such roller coaster park. I think people go to Disneyland for the story not so much the thrills. Certainly some thrills, Space Mountain is lots of people's favorite for a reason, but thrills just aren't DL's bread and butter they way they are at some other parks. (And to each his own)
Originally Posted By nemosniche Ridden it 3 times now, each time, back doored (10 min waits). Nemos is, no way in hades, worth waiting any more than 1 hour for, maybe. Each time I have been on, the looks on the guests faces was "is that it?" Some of the video, especially the turtle sequence, looks washed out. The first part of the ride before the main cave sequence is boring. Now way this ride is $170 mil. This is Disney simply flat out lieing (a lie that can never be proven), just to make the ride more exciting. Done with Hollywood Blockbusters all the time (deduct 30% from most budgets over $100 mil).
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^I don't know, I think in a case like this, Disney wouldn't want to admit they spent so much on basically is an elaborate lay over. I think they would be more embarrassed than proud to show that they let the costs overrun so much over budget if true. (Also, that price tag is nearly a THIRD of what it cost to build DCA, an entirely new theme park...now THAT'S scary )
Originally Posted By DlandJB Ridden it 3 times now, each time, back doored (10 min waits). Nemos is, no way in hades, worth waiting any more than 1 hour for, maybe. Each time I have been on, the looks on the guests faces was "is that it?" >>>> Two questions -- How is it that you come to be "back doored" 3 times? If you don't like it - why do you keep going on? Why not leave a seat for someone who hasn't had a chance yet to ride it?
Originally Posted By barboy "the looks on the guests faces was "is that it?" That is something that we (Mom, Brother and I) most definitely noticed just before we boarded. We were closely watching the expressions of the guests ascending and exiting from the curving sub stairs and 100%, yes every last one of them, had no smiles or laughter. It was very odd!! what crossed my mind was that since this was a preview maybe the sub captain told everyone on board to look unexcited when they exit to fool those waiting just for a little fun or joke.
Originally Posted By danyoung >We were closely watching the expressions of the guests ascending and exiting from the curving sub stairs and 100%, yes every last one of them, had no smiles or laughter.< Well, exiting from the sub is requires a bit more work than just walking out of a theater. I'd think most folks are concentrating on not tripping as they navigate those steep winding stairs.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Now way this ride is $170 mil. This is Disney simply flat out lieing (a lie that can never be proven), just to make the ride more exciting." Disney never said it cost that much. The number in question came from a financial analyst.
Originally Posted By bean "<<< Like what? Seemed pretty straitforward to me. >>> Like DCA opening in 1997. Like the old subs being based on 20,000 Leagues (although Ed Grier made the same mistake). Like the subs being switched from grey to yellow for Nemo." You are correct the article is full of errors including the cost. To be fair though i believe Ed Grier said the original submarine voyage was inspired (not based) on the 20,000 league under the sea movie. Originally though the Walt did want to make the attraction to be based from the movie. There were actually several references within the caverns to the movie. Money became a factor and a sponsor took over. As for the cost, i don't think any article has gotten the cost right. First of all they are just speculating secondly if you notice some reported 72 million others 172 million. Shows that noone knows
