Originally Posted By Dabob2 <just throwing this out there, what happened to all the AA's from the World Of Motion?> Some of them actually found their way into DL's POTC. Though probably the most prominent ones, the ones you saw attempting to haul the treasure up the final lift hill, disappeared when the Depp figures came in. <a href="http://meettheworldinprogressland.blogspot.com/2009/10/epcot-in-anaheim.html" target="_blank">http://meettheworldinprogressl...eim.html</a> (And click at the bottom on "more EPCOT in Anaheim" to see more figures.)
Originally Posted By crapshoot << . . .Peter Pan's Flight. It has an hourly capacity of 600 people. Thus, this small Fantasyland C ticket is only pushing through 200 people per hour less than the Subs.>> Hans, these low ridership numbers are all very good arguments for removing the Subs. Although, if operating at full capacity, Subs runs closer to 900 guests per hour. But then why pick nits? Disney reduced operating costs on Subs by switching to Electric Induction away from Diesel Electric. Maintenance costs due to switching power systems were greatly reduced. I have not heard further if the projection technology had improved so that the lamps now have a longer lifespan. But then, Indy has the same type of issue with tires. At this point I would imagine that the water filtration system is the greatest operating cost on Subs. Water is filtered to a point that is 200 times clearer than what comes out of the tap. That takes a lot of energy and a lot of chemicals. However, since themed entertainment depends on the sole ability to create emotional feelings within their guests, it becomes difficult to diminish that and still offer a quality product. The original intent and concept of "Tomorrowland" is more than likely dead now. So if the NW corner of the park is removed, there is a greater chance that Fantasyland will be expanded into Princessland. And frankly, that would suck.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Well what's there now pretty much sucks. I can easily go to DL and skip every attraction in that corner and wouldn't be bothered a bit. Maybe I'm just bored, but I get excited by the possibility of new things at DL.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<I can easily go to DL and skip every attraction in that corner and wouldn't be bothered a bit.>> It always comes down to personal preference regarding which attractions to ride and which to avoid. When's the last time any of us have been on the Canoes? The NW corner is currently weak in its offerings. Although, I believe that Nemo is a great anchor for that area and could be expanded with other rides. From a pure Fantasyland theme, the Little Mermaid Village would have worked very well there and could have retained the subs. However, what ever happens back there it will cost more than a Billion Dollars, is that a pill that TDA will swallow? or is operating the Subs with high ridership costs and low capacity more acceptable. It is all about ROI and which business case gives TDA the most bang for their Disney Dollar.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt <<I can easily go to DL and skip every attraction in that corner and wouldn't be bothered a bit.>> "It always comes down to personal preference regarding which attractions to ride and which to avoid. When's the last time any of us have been on the Canoes?" That's true, but look at all of the exciting things intertwined with that attraction. Other than the Matterhorn, I can't think of anything left from the 1959 expansion that's worth keeping. "It is all about ROI and which business case gives TDA the most bang for their Disney Dollar." And this is why I've said for a while now that it's unlikely that Disney will push any major investment developing DL outside of Tomorrowland in the foreseeable future. The real future of DLR is outside of the berm.
Originally Posted By doombuggy What ever they do I hope they keep the people mover track rotting for another 10 years. OH and that stupid pointless thing on top of the station.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<OH and that stupid pointless thing on top of the station.>> Oh come on, you mean the Whirrly-Gig Wienie? It's a keeper.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Oh come on, you mean the Whirrly-Gig Wienie? It's a keeper.<< A unique attraction. Nothing else like it. It would be a shame to see it go. ;-)
Originally Posted By nutmegpeach Reminds me how the rocket jets got replaced by astro orbitor-wienie.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<Reminds me how the rocket jets got replaced by astro orbitor-wienie.>> I need to put that attraction on my bucket list.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>"It always comes down to personal preference regarding which attractions to ride and which to avoid. When's the last time any of us have been on the Canoes?"<<< I love the canoes. Rode them last year when we went for my birthday!
Originally Posted By CDF2 How about a spin on the Mysterious Island from DisneySea? Maybe perhaps not as big a mountain as Mt. Prometheus but more a customized ride building for the JTTCOTE and the 20K Leagues rides from Tokyo. Might still have room for a smaller Autopia as well.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt That would be cool. Might be to close to the Matterhorn though.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Now, there is a new rumor Tony Baxter is 'being handed a project'. Being discussed here - Post #70-on ... <a href="http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/are-disney-execs-looking-at-the-success-of-cars-land-to-create-future-projects-on-that-scale.839906/page-4" target="_blank">http://forums.wdwmagic.com/thr...6/page-4</a> And the speculation begins! Frontierland? N/E quadrant of Tomorrowland? ALL of Tomorrowland? Not getting my hopes up ... just throwing it out there. I could see some speculating a condensed version of DisneySea into the N/E quadrant ... as the subs/Autopia/Innoventions are rumored for removal. But what about the rest of the land? It's not just the N/E section that needs renewal ... The ENTIRE land needs a reboot.
Originally Posted By oc_dean ^^^ I think it's safe to say .. whatever the future entails ... Space Mountain, Star Tours, and Buzz aren't going anywhere. Nothing else, though, is worth saving. I'd like to see the other Pixar attraction gone as well, if they are keen to get rid of Nemo. But that's just wishful thinking. And the rest of this .. is also wishful thinking. But I were to place bets on anything ... I would say they are going to let the south half of Tomorrowland sit for a while, still. While the north half sees a metamorphosis.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I agree. While I enjoy the Buzz Lightyear ride, I think there are better things for which that space could be used. I miss the days when the ride designs were invented in the imagination of creative minds rather than based on any Disney/Pixar movie that is popular at the time...or not. Adventure through Inner Space and Mission to Mars may be considered outdated today, but at least they were unique.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Had to think about this one again: If that supposed project was just handed into Baxter's hands ..... then that means a year to two in development, another year to develop the site, then another 2 to build. (As I mentioned earlier - History shows, 5 years - from pencil sketch to grand opening on major things). So the question is - Are we just now learning about something he's been working on in secret, and close to approval? Or is he just getting started? If he is just getting started ... then his retirement won't happen for quite some time. And if it's something he has been quietly working on - then perhaps a projected 2015 "60th" opening? curious - curious
Originally Posted By RoadTrip No offense West Coast people, but WDW (especially the MK) is far more in need of desperate help than DL resort. After the massive transfusion given to the DL resort in DCA, isn't it time to send some $$ WDW's way?
