Originally Posted By Disneyday If you wonder how legitimate this news is, you should visit JULY171955.com, Matt Hart is the name of the blogger. Try the discussion boards to ask him.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> If I waste my time posting in this thread will it then lend legitimacy to the whole notion? Just wondering ... << No.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Sure, and the UK too. << If there is so much freedom in Cuba, why do all those people risk their lives to come here?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Not everyone is poor in Cuba. But those that are think the US is paved with gold. THat is the history of migration to the US. In most places it is people seeking their fortunes or a change of life (it even happens within the US - look at the migrations to California). Do not judge a whole people by a few.
Originally Posted By avro_imagineer There's always Detroit You can get very cheap property in Michigan.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***>>>Cubans visit Canada?<<< Sure, and the UK too.*** I'm assuming the Cubans who have the means to vacation internationally are not the same set as the ones who risk their lives trying to float their way to Florida? Otherwise, I'm confused as to why they don't all just book a flight to Canada and sneak down from the North. Seems easier and safer.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Otherwise, I'm confused as to why they don't all just book a flight to Canada and sneak down from the North. Seems easier and safer. << Me too? Miami is filled with both wealthy, and poor Cubans that risked a lot to get here.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<I'm assuming the Cubans who have the means to vacation internationally are not the same set as the ones who risk their lives trying to float their way to Florida?>> Most likely they are either apparatchiks or athletes.
Originally Posted By oc_dean WOW! I looked at that photo of the freeway .. and I thought LA was THEE traffic nightmare of them all! 10 lanes in each direction .. and it STILL is a crawl! EEGADS!
Originally Posted By Mr X *apparatchiks* Had to look that one up. *and I thought LA was THEE traffic nightmare of them all* In America it's certainly up there, but worldwide there are plenty of quagmires out there. Tokyo rush hour can put LA to shame anyday (and no, that's certainly NOT a good thing lol).
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Indeed, and in London in a car, it can take 1 hour to go 5 miles in rush hour. Mumbai is the very worst traffic I have ever been in, and dubai is getting pretty bad too.
Originally Posted By avro_imagineer When we were in Indonesia and the Philippines locals had the custom of squeezing an extra lane of traffic out of thoroughfares. Besides even without traffic our rental Toyota Innova/Revo could barely push 90km/h (think 50mph)
Originally Posted By barboy ///our rental Toyota Innova/Revo could barely push 90km/h (think 50mph)/// But your Revo even at 50 mph max speed could not have been the limiting factor........ the atrocious roads would have been since anything over 40 mph would be too bumpy or perilous. Besides you never knew when a street vendor, blind person, stray dog or child beggar would suddenly appear in the middle of the roadway/blvd/ave/hwy, right?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***the atrocious roads would have been since anything over 40 mph would be too bumpy or perilous. Besides you never knew when a street vendor, blind person, stray dog or child beggar would suddenly appear in the middle of the roadway/blvd/ave/hwy, right?*** None of that managed to slow down the insane driver of the mini-bus WorldDisney dragged me onto in Hong Kong! :O Compared to THAT, Los Angeles is pretty much Kansas driving.
Originally Posted By barboy ///None of that managed to slow down the insane driver of the mini-bus WorldDisney dragged me onto in Hong Kong! :O/// Sounds like a real hoot X. But I seem to remember driving as being fairly civil business in HK during my time there.
Originally Posted By barboy ///and I thought LA was THEE traffic nightmare of them all! /// As for the US don't underestimate places like Seattle, Boston or the Wash/Baltimore Beltways--- both inner and outer loops. Those places can easily compete with the greater LA area for overall traffic headache.
